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Transparent
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There are very few Type-B RCBO units.

I certainly can't find one by Lewdon.

However, the UK manufacturer Proteus, has RCBOs which are:

  • Type-B for the sort of earth leakage current it can detect
  • C-curve for the speed of high-current overload
  • bi-directional

... which is a stunning combination to find in a single unit.

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Don't believe what you see on the Screwfix site. I've complained to them about their haphazard way of mixing up the concepts of 'curves' and 'types'. However the polite email I received in response told me that customer support didn't understand the problem in the first place.

If you want an accurate description, first go to an electrical wholesaler such as CEF or TLC.
Once you've found a device which appears to fit the required description, download the manufacturer's own technical specification to check.
Note the manufacturer's part-number and use that when ordering!


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Posted by: @trebor12345

It would appear that the installer has sent me an out of date spec document on the Vaillant heat pump.  It now appears that I require a type B. 

Screenshot 2026 02 23 at 14.15.23

This means an additional consumer board needs to be fitted along with this new breaker.

From this table, I understand the following is needed in sequence to feed the heatpump: 

  • the fuse/mcb is characteristic C - so C curve
  • the rcd is type B

An RCBO performs both functions. 

The board you have includes several RCBOs and I assume all are being protected by a single B curve 40A MCB. 

The heatpump cannot be fed by the same MCB. It needs a separate C curve MCB. But it also needs RCD type B. 

If the MCB could be changed by a C curve one (and not invalidate manufacturers warranty, etc), perhaps you could avoid a separate Consumer unit. 

But the main thing to focus is that a Type B RCD is needed. Wylex may be is a good brand that supplies them. It makes sense your electrician is suggesting they would use a separate CU (even if sometimes it could be avoided, the electrician that will sign it off ultimately decides).  

 

 


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Posted by: @batpred

The board you have includes several RCBOs and I assume all are being protected by a single B curve 40A MCB.

STOP right there.

There is no such concept as an MCB protecting RCBOs.

Wait until I have time to clarify this later this evening.


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Posted by: @transparent

Posted by: @batpred

The board you have includes several RCBOs and I assume all are being protected by a single B curve 40A MCB.

STOP right there.

There is no such concept as an MCB protecting RCBOs.

Wait until I have time to clarify this later this evening.

Sorry if I have confused things.  Here's a summary which I hope will help:

Vaillant require this breaker:

Screenshot 2026 02 23 at 12.38.07

The installer is saying that the new breaker needs to be fitted in a new consumer unit as the breaker is larger than my current CU. This is full view of my CU.

 

IMG 0511

This is inside, showing the breakers in question:

IMG 0509

Hope this helps.


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