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16/11/2025 9:33 am  

@lucia  I have been thinking further about the posts above and am rapidly coming to the conclusion that the section of the media that supports the green agenda will bear as much responsibility, should the green agenda be watered down over the next months and particularly at the next election, as the section of the media that is opposed to the green agenda. 

Why?  Because, just like its opponents, it presents one dimensional arguments to the public representing almost everything that is happening as bad (or, in your words, stupid), whilst failing to acknowledge either the difficulty of government or the conflicting decisions that government has to face.  Thus it seeds discontent with government which plays directly into the hands of those who would describe the green agenda as 'stupid net zero'.

I repeat that I am not downplaying the responsibility of the media to hold government to account, which I hold dearly, but it also, at least in my mind, has a responsibility to educate and to present news in context not just as a series of disasters or mistakes, which clearly it is not. 

The green-supporting media is IMHO failing, by joining the chorus of unrestrained and un-contexed criticism, and in its failure is defeating its own objectives.  Its something of a case of being careful what you wish for. 

 


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4kW peak of solar PV since 2011; EV and a 1930s house which has been partially renovated to improve its efficiency. 7kW Vaillant heat pump.


   
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16/11/2025 9:52 am  

I echo those comments from @jamespa

The media seems to report on what is currently happening, particularly when something hasn't worked out as hoped for.

But the route to Net Zero necessarily has forward vision, which sets the pathway.
By not reporting vision, the end-goal seems unattainable.


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16/11/2025 10:47 am  

Posted by: @jamespa
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@lucia  I have been thinking further about the posts above and am rapidly coming to the conclusion that the section of the media that supports the green agenda will bear as much responsibility, should the green agenda be watered down over the next months and particularly at the next election, as the section of the media that is opposed to the green agenda. 

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The green-supporting media is IMHO failing, by joining the chorus of unrestrained and un-contexed criticism, and in its failure is defeating its own objectives.  Its something of a case of being careful what you wish for. 

I broadly agree. Also when green includes environment and climate, the inherent tension is often exploited to delay it.

Just to have a power transformation station to bring offshore wind power to Suffolk, 500 documents on various studies were needed. I am not even sure if building started! 

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But the route to Net Zero necessarily has forward vision, which sets the pathway.
By not reporting vision, the end-goal seems unattainable.

Let´s hope pragmatism comes to the fore and implementation of grid scale solutions is swift. But I sense a home PV system is a safe bet given the uncertainty of the path ahead.

 



   
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16/11/2025 10:59 am  

Posted by: @batpred
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Just to have a power transformation station to bring offshore wind power to Suffolk, 500 documents on various studies were needed.

As I read it, the protests were about the requirement for lots of new 400kV transmission towers to transfer the electricity to London.

Those protests were too wide-ranging due to lack of understanding by the public.

There was no point complaining about a massive upgrade for the transmission  grid running west from Friston.
That's the same GSP which is needed for Sizewell's expansion anyway.

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Yes, there are other alternatives.
But the logical science-based objections were over-shadowed by those simply screaming "No More Pylons".


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16/11/2025 11:09 am  

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But I sense a home PV system is a safe bet given the uncertainty of the path ahead.

Definitely.  The issue though is the seasonal one.  In principle I could be self sufficient in energy if I doubled my solar capacity (which I could).  The problem is that I would need to shift energy from summer to winter.  How to do that.  Currently nothing of the scale is available nor even on the horizon so far as I can see.


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