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What determines the SOC of a battery?

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Batpred
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Posted by: @upnorthandpersonal

The easiest way to analyze what's going on is to post screenshots of the BMS configuration parameters and the inverter settings.

I agree. 

Fogstar confirmed that the Seplos BMS does not slow the charging down, so no worries. 🙂 

The HA charts will help future readers to get clarity. 

Useful to have these prompts in the Forum to learn and fine tune where possible! 

 


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 Bash
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@batpred 

I didn't write the Seplos BMS software, I am just a layman observing it's behaviour.

The only way you are going to satisfy your curiosity is to do what I did, stay up late, log onto the BMS directly with the RS485 cable and watch what happens when the battery nears capacity.

You'll then get the answer you are looking for and see if it's "magic" or if I have made it up.

I am not going to get up at 4 in the morning and do it for you my friend.


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Batpred
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Posted by: @bash

You'll then get the answer you are looking for and see if it's "magic" or if I have made it up.

I am not going to get up at 4 in the morning and do it for you my friend.

The answer from Fogstar was crisp. 

My hypothesis, supported by the graphs I shared, is that this particular data stream is being pre-processed by the Solis. I am not going to criticise anyone for sharing conclusions in good faith. 🙂

There's no benefit for anyone to investigate. 

I will focus my effort to get my jk balancer working.. 

 


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 Bash
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@batpred 

Ironically you didn't have anything good to say about Fogstar, now you have changed your tune.

If your balancer isn't right then you need to do this anyway.

But it's your battery, so I'll leave you to it.



   
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Fortuitously @bash got up early and did manage to check the reduction in charge current.

Go to his post on this other Topic to read the outcome.


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Batpred
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Posted by: @transparent

Fortuitously @bash got up early and did manage to check the reduction in charge current.

Go to his post on this other Topic to read the outcome.

Thanks, so the consequence is Fogstar either do not know or did do not care enough to state it to me. My question was clear and I was not pushing for a yes or a no. 

Best to keep the config as is.

 


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 Bash
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@batpred 

I would consider changing your balance start voltage a little lower to give the balancer a chance to do it's job.



   
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While the sun was shining yesterday my batteries got to 100% for 20 minutes or so and my inverter was showing that 0.5A was going to the battery. At the end of those 20 mins the cells were within 2mA of being perfectly balanced but the washing machine went on so I didn't see how long it would take for them to balance perfectly.

I also found the graph on the Solis cloud webpage that shows the battery details (Device Overview: Battery) and I can see that at night when it gets to 100% and the full charge stops there is a period afterwards when it charges at 0.5A, the same as it is showing for yesterday when I was checking the screen on the inverter and battery.

This is last nights graph at 2.01

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Which continued at 0.5A until 2.41.

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I can also see that the battery is at about 53.5V when there has been no charge reported for a couple of hours, which from my understanding doesn't look like the battery is sitting at a high voltage when the BMS reports it is fully charged?

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After much faffing about I got these charts from my setup from the solis. I'm not sure if they are any help? But as for charge parameters I don't know how to get them let alone adjust. (This is 2 Fogstar 16 KWh in parallel with solis * KW inverter)

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Posted by: @jancold

After much faffing about I got these charts from my setup from the solis. I'm not sure if they are any help? But as for charge parameters I don't know how to get them let alone adjust. (This is 2 Fogstar 16 KWh in parallel with solis * KW inverter)

Screenshot 2026 02 22 16.24.17

My conclusion was that the Solis (via Soliscloud but also using local modbus) is not reporting the raw power, there´s some sort of moving average type of transform.

I am attaching the chart of my Seplos BMS data (and something is not looking right with my JK balancer). The Solis current reading is showing very sharp changes (orange) and the current reading that is direct from the Seplos bms (green) is showing less sharp drops and even smoother climbs. I am not doing any transforms in the data like no offsets, but the timings do not seem to match the set periods on the Solis, that are as follows:

  • 4:01-4:51 25A up to 98%
  • 4:51-5:01 10A up to 100%
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Sorry should have said the BMS is not Seplos but Pace with JK balancer.


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Batpred
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Posted by: @jancold

Sorry should have said the BMS is not Seplos but Pace with JK balancer.

I am aware. But is your chart direct from a Pace BMS app?

I managed to set the parameter on my JK balancer. The iphone app worked after resetting the connection (the android was not). So the balancing may get sorted tonight. My earlier chart was plotted using Home Assistant, with most data acquired directly via bluetooth.. 

The screenshot below is from the jk app.

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