Via the cloud and via the online, similar data is shown. So far, just doing its job. 

And if you can live with plastic surface ducting, your electrician will thank you for it. 

Some of the circuits in my home are not protected by RCD (which is fairly common, the earth wire was often not even run for ceiling/lighting circuits). 

I am exploring this topic and whether it contributed to the fact a conventional 30 mA RCD was not behaving as we  expected. 

@swwils suggested me to stick to givEnergy.

@dcsh, @downfield and @DREI seem to have givEnergy inverters, so they may be able to assist. 

I was curious to see how it compares to the Solis.. 

So the GivEnergy 1PH Hybrid Inverter 8.0kW HV 3rd Generation is retailing for around £1300 (+VAT?) and features: 

• Rated AC Power: 8,000 W

• Max AC Power (5 Minutes): 8,000 W

• Surge AC Power (1 Second): 12,000 W

• Nominal AC Output Power: 10,000W

• Max DC Input Power: 12,000 W

• Max Input Voltage: 600 V

• MPPT Voltage Range: 90 – 550 V

• Max DC Current: 2*25 A

• DC Inputs: 4

• MPPT Trackers: 2

• Euro Efficiency: 97%

• Integrated DC Switch: No

• Battery Max. Charge / Discharge Power 8000W / 85000W
• BACKUP TERMINAL PARAMETER (AC)
• Nominal Voltage 230VAC
• Nominal AC Output Power 8000W
• Max. Output Current 37A

Based on this, I can see my 8.0kW hybrid Solis also includes: 

• wifi, bluetooth and GPRS connectivity (GivEnergy mentions wifi and LAN)
• a port for UPS "backup loads" rated 36.4Amps with 4ms changeover (givEnergy is 10ms, enough to cause some devices to power cycle)
• a smart port, able to take AC loads from other inverters or a generator
• works with low voltage battery up to 190Amps (similar power)
• only AC power rated 8,000W 
• only max 32 DC current
• EU efficiency 96.1%
• it has an integrated DC switch
• Solis AI to drive the battery usage based on agile import and export tariff rates (that we are currently evaluating)

The main differences seem to be that the Solis inverter can:

• use the cheaper "48V" batteries
• has true UPS functionality
• has an additional port for AC solar input or a generator
• potentially useful AI functionality that allows it to optimise import and export using agile tariffs 

@transparent , does this seem a fair comparison? Or did I miss much?

I have a gen 1 5kw Givenergy hybrid inverter and two gen 1 5.2kWh batteries with the emergency output to a the distribution board for the lights and a few sockets via a manual switch. 
The Givenergy portfolio has come on a lot in the 5 years I’ve had my kit, so my experience won’t be up to date in terms of spec and performance. What hasn’t changed is that Givenergy is a locked environment, where only qualified installers can configure the kit including adding additional batteries, which seems to be a constant bug bearer on the Givenergy forum. 
However home assistant can be used with Givenergy via a local API, giving flexibility for automation beyond that included in the portal or app. 

Posted by: @dcsh

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What hasn’t changed is that Givenergy is a locked environment, where only qualified installers can configure the kit including adding additional batteries, which seems to be a constant bug bearer on the Givenergy forum. 

Locked environments are difficult to manage, it also means features may not vbe made accessible since it depends on the installer being familiar with it.

I can access many menus on the Solis including the professional ones. I can do everything except things like firmware updates. For those, I raise a ticket and Solis Engineers run it.   

Posted by: @dcsh

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However home assistant can be used with Givenergy via a local API, giving flexibility for automation beyond that included in the portal or app. 

On my HA, I configured the Solax integration via modbus (so I assume this is local) and also two Solis ones, the first for extensive monitoring and the second to control the inverter.  But I have not had time to get them working. 

At the moment, I am giving Solis AI EMS a chance. The challenges to find the right configuration for the Fogstar Seplos battery slowed me down...

Anyway, the AI charges the battery during cheap agile periods and then powers the house in an off-grid mode. It is still learning despite all the config changes. 

Quick update, Solis AI looks like work in progress. Had a few issues with it that HQ are looking into. The promise is worth the pain I think..

It also seems the smart port that is commonly used for AC solar input or a generator is also doubling as a second "lower priority backup" port. I do not want to assume it doubles the UPS capacity, but it does look like that. 

Below is a chart showing the inverter charging the battery and then slowing down when the EV charger kicks in. With 100A there would be no reason to have to choose between the two as below 64A, it seems the Solis Engineers limited it like usual for Spain or Portugal...  

@batpred 

I'd be interested to know if you have found a way of real time data as Solis Cloud only updates every 5 minutes.

Posted by: @bash

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@batpred 

I'd be interested to know if you have found a way of real time data as Solis Cloud only updates every 5 minutes.

If you mean with Home Assistant, I have got a Solis modbus integration working. I did not check the frequency, what data are you after? 

This is a simplified view of how we currently use the Solis inverter:

@batpred 

I'm after real time usage data. This only updates every 5 minutes on Solis Cloud.

Ah, what do you need it fo