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MattEngineer · 2021-12-03T18:39:26Z

When the energy cap comes up for renewal I think it will rise to 26.5p per unit, any thoughts of the collective?

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04/12/2025 4:59 pm

@jeff You seem to have a grasp of all things regulatory, so what's you view....should we be keeping an eye on what our European neighbours are doing and upgrading our gas network in harmony to theirs? Re: EU regulation 2024/1789 and in particular hydrogen blending (support upto 2%) on european gas networks. This seems to be legislation whose impact we surely cannot totally ignore?

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04/12/2025 5:03 pm

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There are two 'hydrogen to the home' projects occurring in the Yorkshire gas supply area.

A Blended hydrogen trial is occurring in Gateshead with 600+ homers involved.

2% blend sounds exactly what may allow to avoid too much insurance issues and liability but to divert/delay the "transition"! A scam with an aura of legitimacy?

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04/12/2025 5:07 pm

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Re: EU regulation 2024/1789 and in particular hydrogen blending (support upto 2%) on european gas networks.

Is this to accept some kind of "contamination", like in case methane pipework is occasionally used to transport hydrogen for the dwindling needs of some industrial processes?

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04/12/2025 5:18 pm

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This is part of the aims of the regulation

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This Regulation aims to facilitate the penetration of renewable gas and low-carbon gas and hydrogen into the energy system, enabling a shift away from fossil gas, and to allow renewable gas and low-carbon gas and hydrogen to play an important role in achieving the Union’s 2030 climate objectives and climate-neutrality by 2050. This Regulation also aims to set up a regulatory framework which enables and incentivises all market participants to shift away from fossil gas and plan their activities to avoid lock-in effects and aims to ensure a gradual and timely phase-out of fossil gas, in particular, in all relevant industrial sectors and for heating purposes.

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04/12/2025 5:35 pm

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This is part of the aims of the regulation

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This Regulation aims to facilitate the penetration of renewable gas and low-carbon gas and hydrogen into the energy system, enabling a shift away from fossil gas, and to allow renewable gas and low-carbon gas and hydrogen to play an important role in achieving the Union’s 2030 climate objectives and climate-neutrality by 2050. This Regulation also aims to set up a regulatory framework which enables and incentivises all market participants to shift away from fossil gas and plan their activities to avoid lock-in effects and aims to ensure a gradual and timely phase-out of fossil gas, in particular, in all relevant industrial sectors and for heating purposes.

I can hear those screeching tyres... the end of Russian gas, desperate measures required...

Plus their industrial policies have been genuinely planning to mop up excess wind electricity and produce hydrogen. Without significant domestic fossil fuel players and a typical tight regulatory framework, they may stick to a straight and narrow path.

I saw there's a UK consultation to formally accept the alignment.

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04/12/2025 5:42 pm

@batpred my understanding is the current limit for hydrogen within the natural gas network in GB is 0.1% by volume, as set out under the Gas Safety (Management) Regulations 1996 (GS(M)R). If gas blended with hydrogen >0.1% reaches an interconnector it could not currently be accepted by GB. In this scenario the interconnector would temporarily cease activity until such time as the available gas came back into quality requirements of the GS(M)R.

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