Posted by: @marcexec

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• has a mode where it keeps the fan idling if there were any R290 leaks to reduce clearance requirements (the German new Plus has that, too)
• Plus in June confirmed as well

All going according to plan, mid July we get that 7kW anthracite plus with the standard 7 yrs warranty. 

I cannot believe I have a tentative date. 😁

I also had a chat earlier on with the heat geek answering ai. But unfortunately ai is not going to get it working for me.

We are putting our faith on agile engineering at scale. Hopefully I will not be back here with plan b. 

Posted by: @jamespa

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They advertised in early blurb new control electronics reducing the number of separate control boxes, I cant immediately tell if that has been realised.

I had a look at the manual for the pro and it mentions "Modbus cable connection", one for inverter and one for the indoor unit. The new plus also mentions modbus. It seems my plans to get an Sbus adapter may need revisiting? 

Posted by: @batpred

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Posted by: @jamespa

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They advertised in early blurb new control electronics reducing the number of separate control boxes, I cant immediately tell if that has been realised.

I had a look at the manual for the pro and it mentions "Modbus cable connection", one for inverter and one for the indoor unit. The new plus also mentions modbus. It seems my plans to get an Sbus adapter may need revisiting? 

 

Interesting.  Perhaps wait and see how things develop!  Maybe Vaillant have bowed to the inevitable (or forthcoming EU regulation which it has been suggested may be introduced) and implemented modbus.

Of course we aren't in the EU so they may, but probably won't, disable it for the UK market!  Modbus was developed by a US company subsequently sold to a French company, so it's definitely an immigrant protocol.  Thank goodness we took back control.

Posted by: @jamespa

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Posted by: @batpred

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I had a look at the manual for the pro and it mentions "Modbus cable connection", one for inverter and one for the indoor unit. The new plus also mentions modbus. It seems my plans to get an Sbus adapter may need revisiting? 

Interesting.  Perhaps wait and see how things develop!  Maybe Vaillant have bowed to the inevitable (or forthcoming EU regulation which it has been suggested may be introduced) and implemented modbus.

Of course we aren't in the EU so they may, but probably won't, disable it for the UK market!  Modbus was developed by a US company subsequently sold to a French company

Of course, British companies asked for the benefit of the extra hassle with extra standards for one market to be scrutinised. It seems this gov will do that, to everybody´s benefit.

Dynamic alignment could be a very shortcircuited process.. 

Posted by: @marcexec

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Heat Geek already has the Pro on offer now:

• even more quiet than the old ("current") Plus
• packs more power per size (L-shaped evaporator), but less to select from
• has a mode where it keeps the fan idling if there were any R290 leaks to reduce clearance requirements (the German new Plus has that, too)
• Plus in June confirmed as well

It's great that HG are pushing this. 

But we must have some strong headwinds here! Every time I look for documentation on the Arotherm Pro, apart from the German originals, I am now seeing Dutch, Swedish, ... but no English. 

Is our market that much harder to crack and if so, what could be causing it? 

Posted by: @batpred

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Is our market that much harder to crack and if so, what could be causing it? 

er, a vote in 2016 I would guess.  In many cases its no longer sufficient to meet EU regs, manufacturers separately have to meet UK regs (even if they are identical).  Plus the fact that our heat pump market is small.  Lots of stuff you can no longer get in the UK because its just not worth the effort to export, be thankful that this does not apply to heat pumps!

@jamespa 

That makes sense..

In any case, I feel more comfortable being a late adopter (in the big scheme) with the Arotherm Pro.

Posted by: @avenir

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So it will actually be available in June, which fits with what Vaillant originally told me last year. 

@avenir just curious whether you had it installed and if it was the pro or the new plus.

It is only a few days back that the pro became “connect and notify” from a DNO standpoint..

@batpred not yet. It will be the plus.

It’s here

@avenir Looks grey to me. Toodles.

I suspect its RAL7016 - Anthracite.  Everything is these days!