Joining the Renewable Heating Hub forums is completely free and only takes a minute. By registering you’ll be able to ask questions, join discussions, follow topics you’re interested in, bookmark useful threads and receive notifications when someone replies. Non-registered members also do not have access to our AI features. When choosing your username, please note that it cannot be changed later, so we recommend avoiding brand or product names. Before registering, please take a moment to read the Forum Rules & Terms of Use so we can keep the community helpful, respectful and informative for everyone. Thanks for joining!
Heat loss based on gas usage
We are 2 weeks away from our HP install.
In October I dropped the flow rate down on our Vaillant gas boiler to 45c, to match our HP design temperature.
We are upgrading all the radiators as some are way to small and others need increasing to meet the design temp of 45c.
I set the thermostat to 21c with a setback to 19.5c between 9pm and 5am.
Surprisingly this has significantly improved the comfort of the house, without increasing gas usage.
We have a warmer house.
I upped the flow to 50c during the cold snap of the last few weeks.
The house has stayed warm 24/7, which bodes well for the HP.
The gas boiler has run nearly 24/7 over this period.
Our heat loss was calculated at 6.2kw @ -2 45c.
Below is our gas usage for the coldest day Tuesday 6th Jan, which ranged between -8c and +4c
This looks like our heat loss calculation was bang on (to me).
Have I interpreted the gas usage right from the bright app?
Thanks.
Posted by: @bashHave I interpreted the gas usage right from the bright app?
In a word yes.
Measurements based on a single day should be treated with extreme caution, houses take a long time to react. However as a general indication this is likely to be good.
Like you I turned down my gas boiler before getting a heat pump and like you it improved comfort. Unfortunately the way boilers are typically run in the UK increases cost by about 10% and reduces comfort. Madness!
4kW peak of solar PV since 2011; EV and a 1930s house which has been partially renovated to improve its efficiency. 7kW Vaillant heat pump.
Thanks.
The numbers posted above were just for the coldest day over the last few weeks.
Looking through the bright app it's similar across many days over the last few weeks suggesting it's not a one off.
Last winter we had our flow temperature at 65c and set the thermostat to 19.5c during the day and 17c overnight.
This resulted in the heating coming on for about 1.5-2hrs and switch off for 2-3 hours.
The house was significantly colder and less comfortable.
Comparing gas usage we don't appear to be consuming any more so far than last winter (which wasn't particularly cold).
- 26 Forums
- 2,631 Topics
- 61.5 K Posts
- 1,212 Online
- 7,027 Members
Join Us!
Latest Posts
-
RE: A2A vs A2W: Which Heat Pump Would You Pick?
Good questions @temperature_gradient. My understanding ...
By springswood , 1 hour ago
-
RE: Estimating true heat loss from twelve months of consumption data
Thank you both for your replies. It is heartening to di...
By ian33a , 2 hours ago
-
RE: Anyone concerned about GivEnergy?
@sunnyskies I agree with Downfield trying to ask the GE...
By Judith , 10 hours ago
-
RE: Setback savings - fact or fiction?
@jamespa — this version may be marginally better: &nb...
By cathodeRay , 12 hours ago
-
RE: New Vaillant aroTherm Plus in black - When will it come to the UK?
All going according to plan, mid July we get that 7kW a...
By Batpred , 13 hours ago
-
Current metrics - DHW target set to 47c
By TaffontheTaff , 17 hours ago
-
RE: My Grant R290 9kW Heat Pump Installation
@petch I'm very sorry that I have not picked up your po...
By GrahamF , 20 hours ago
-
RE: Samsung gen 7 HP 12kw - auto control issue and water law
Suggest you have a trial with Havenwise app. I have th...
By Broadsman , 22 hours ago
-
RE: New Solar, Batteries, Air Source and Under Floor Heating advice please
You’re right: UFH works best with high-conductivity fin...
By bafab , 1 day ago
-
RE: DIY or Don’t Touch? Solarman Smart Meter Install
That was my understanding also.
By JamesPa , 1 day ago
-
RE: Grant Aeona 3 R32 cycling with weather compensation.
That would be abnormal but I cant see from your charts ...
By JamesPa , 1 day ago
-
RE: Vaillant Sensocomfort Time
Oh I remember this from when I set mine up 2 years ago,...
By JamesPa , 1 day ago
-
Heat geek have already stated that the pro is in fact c...
By JamesPa , 1 day ago
-
RE: The Myth of the MCS Performance Guarantee
@editor I know. As if MCS wasn't bad enough, it's now e...
By Deltona , 1 day ago






