Joining the Renewable Heating Hub forums is completely free and only takes a minute. By registering you’ll be able to ask questions, join discussions, follow topics you’re interested in, bookmark useful threads and receive notifications when someone replies. Non-registered members also do not have access to our AI features. When choosing your username, please note that it cannot be changed later, so we recommend avoiding brand or product names. Before registering, please take a moment to read the Forum Rules & Terms of Use so we can keep the community helpful, respectful and informative for everyone. Thanks for joining!
Gaslighting in the heat pump industry – has anyone else experienced this?
What’s remarkable from this very short thread is just how different all the audits are, and there’s no consistency into what’s looked and evaluated.
Get a copy of The Ultimate Guide to Heat Pumps
Subscribe and follow our YouTube channel!
Posted by: @editorThis is something I’ve been aware of for a long time, but it’s becoming more noticeable and I’m increasingly concerned by how often it comes up when homeowners start digging into problems with their heat pump systems.
When things go wrong, there seems to be a fairly consistent pattern across parts of the industry (installers, manufacturers, certification bodies, consumer codes and others) where responsibility is subtly deflected away from the installation itself and placed back onto the homeowner. Poor performance becomes 'expected behaviour', missing design documents are said to have "definitely been provided", high running costs are blamed on how the system was "used" and genuine concerns are reframed as misunderstandings rather than addressed head-on.
I’m seeing this more and more, not less, and I think it’s a problem the industry needs to be far more honest about if it wants to build trust with homeowners.
I’m going to work on a video looking at how this kind of gaslighting shows up in the heat pump world, how to spot it and what homeowners can do when they feel they’re being deflected rather than helped.
If you’ve experienced this yourself (whether from an installer, MCS, a consumer code, a certification body or anyone else involved) feel free to share your experience here. It doesn’t need to be a rant (but it can be if you want) and you don’t need to name names unless you want to. Examples, patterns or even just a "this sounds familiar" are all useful.
Don't want to go public? DM me.
I think this is a conversation worth having and it’d be good to see how widespread these experiences actually are.
I wanted to comment as have been recently thinking exactly the same thing. That there appears to be a lot of gaslighting going on especially in some of the chats on Facebook for example where people who say they have problems with their heat pump are made to feel stupid or that it’s their fault they’re having a problem. So thank you for highlighting this!
Posted by: @fionaThat there appears to be a lot of gaslighting going on especially in some of the chats on Facebook for example where people who say they have problems with their heat pump are made to feel stupid or that it’s their fault they’re having a problem. So thank you for highlighting this!
Yes, anyone trying to get a sense of what a heatpump will look like specially in term of SCOP and running ££ via the quick question/comment/reply that tends to be the norm in Facebook must be easily confused. Simple for an installer looking to get some leads via FB and possibly an admin to provide a quick reply and force the poster into a long explanation. Few do it...
Much better to read the book and some of the posts here to get a real sense I think
8kW Solis S6-EH1P8K-L-PLUS hybrid inverter; G99: 8kw export; 16kWh Seplos Fogstar battery; Ohme Home Pro EV charger; 100Amp head, HA lab on mini PC
- 26 Forums
- 2,631 Topics
- 61.5 K Posts
- 1,259 Online
- 7,027 Members
Join Us!
Latest Posts
-
RE: Estimating true heat loss from twelve months of consumption data
Hi @ian33a you could do your own heat loss calculation ...
By Judith , 6 hours ago
-
RE: A2A vs A2W: Which Heat Pump Would You Pick?
@djh ah, I have never seen this before, interesting ide...
By ASHP-BOBBA , 6 hours ago
-
RE: Anyone concerned about GivEnergy?
@sunnyskies I agree with Downfield trying to ask the GE...
By Judith , 7 hours ago
-
RE: Setback savings - fact or fiction?
@jamespa — this version may be marginally better: &nb...
By cathodeRay , 8 hours ago
-
RE: New Vaillant aroTherm Plus in black - When will it come to the UK?
All going according to plan, mid July we get that 7kW a...
By Batpred , 9 hours ago
-
Current metrics - DHW target set to 47c
By TaffontheTaff , 14 hours ago
-
RE: My Grant R290 9kW Heat Pump Installation
@petch I'm very sorry that I have not picked up your po...
By GrahamF , 16 hours ago
-
RE: Samsung gen 7 HP 12kw - auto control issue and water law
Suggest you have a trial with Havenwise app. I have th...
By Broadsman , 18 hours ago
-
RE: New Solar, Batteries, Air Source and Under Floor Heating advice please
You’re right: UFH works best with high-conductivity fin...
By bafab , 21 hours ago
-
RE: DIY or Don’t Touch? Solarman Smart Meter Install
That was my understanding also.
By JamesPa , 21 hours ago
-
RE: Grant Aeona 3 R32 cycling with weather compensation.
That would be abnormal but I cant see from your charts ...
By JamesPa , 21 hours ago
-
RE: Vaillant Sensocomfort Time
Oh I remember this from when I set mine up 2 years ago,...
By JamesPa , 1 day ago
-
Heat geek have already stated that the pro is in fact c...
By JamesPa , 1 day ago
-
RE: The Myth of the MCS Performance Guarantee
@editor I know. As if MCS wasn't bad enough, it's now e...
By Deltona , 1 day ago





