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How should the Boiler Upgrade Scheme be reformed?

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(@temperature_gradient)
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Posted by: @etchedpixels
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I would agree though the magic we need is something like the Midea Portasplit but with a detatchable elephant trunk that can be run through a wall and has idiot proof connectors. Even if the connector added 200 quid to the unit cost it would be cheaper than the time and hassle of a qualifed installer. That or we need to offer grants for sash windows instead where it's a trivial to do a portasplit.

A unit which uses water to transfer the heat/chill from the outdoor unit to indoor unit would be ideal - fit and insulate the water pipework (pick your preferred pipework type) fill it up with water-anti-freeze mix at the highest point and away you go. It also makes it repairable if it develops a pipework leak, needs moving and it reduces risk of refrigerant leaks inside the building.



   
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@temperature_gradient Isn't that just describing a regular A2W heat pump? You can plumb that with one internal fan coil if you want to make an A2A mini split setup. Or you mean the idea of bundling those two to be sold as a system? 

The downside of A2W is you don't get the phase change of refrigerant, which is what people want when they're installing something they expect to be an air conditioner first and heating second. Maybe that doesn't matter if you're selling them primarily for heat?



   
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Posted by: @prunus
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Isn't that just describing a regular A2W heat pump? You can plumb that with one internal fan coil if you want to make an A2A mini split setup. Or you mean the idea of bundling those two to be sold as a system? 

Not quite, regular A2W heat-pumps need a load of extra kit and fittings - they have a minimum water volume, so you'd need a volumiser tank, filling lines and gauge, possibly anti-freeze valve etc etc. It would be difficult to install compared to a regular A2A unit.

I think it would want an indoor and outdoor units designed for this purpose, designed to operate with a reduced water volume, without any external/additional kit, for a single, or multi-split type connection to fan-coils, with water/coolant tanks in the units and some means of pressuring the system.



   
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