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RE: Where heat loss surveys seem to go against practical reality

@rob-of-york — thanks again for a clear helpful explanation. If I can summarise, I think the key point is that the heat from other sources stays prett...

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RE: Where heat loss surveys seem to go against practical reality

I get the general principle. My contention is that you need to sample often enough to get true average, since infrequent sampling may miss observation...

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RE: Where heat loss surveys seem to go against practical reality

@rob-of-york — thanks again for posting in such such comprehensive and comprehensible detail, you are a great asset to the forum! I think the pro...

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RE: Where heat loss surveys seem to go against practical reality

I suspect most if not all of the tank level measuring systems available will have been developed to tell the owner when they need to fill up their tan...

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RE: Where heat loss surveys seem to go against practical reality

It's an enticing idea, but the problem is knowing the oil usage over the reference period to sufficient accuracy. All I had was a sight gauge on the s...

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RE: Where heat loss surveys seem to go against practical reality

@ian33a — I'm not so sure about the numbers in the last spreadsheet excerpt you posted. If your average daily oil use is 6.58L, and if an average heat...

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RE: Where heat loss surveys seem to go against practical reality

@jamespa — I can't argue with any of that. I also take the important point that what you need to know in practical terms for heat pump sizing is not w...

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RE: Where heat loss surveys seem to go against practical reality

But that is using a range (6.6 to 10 kW) to rule out the 14-16 kW jokers! I've said I agree the method can be and often is useful as a sense/sanity ch...

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RE: Where heat loss surveys seem to go against practical reality

But there is a whiff of whatiffery: (a) what if 'the number of degree days is fairly consistent from year to year'. But what if it is not? This can ...

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RE: Where heat loss surveys seem to go against practical reality

That is indeed the take away message in my view. It would be very useful if we could find a way to use oil consumption to derive heat loss, but I thin...

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RE: Where heat loss surveys seem to go against practical reality

When you say 'scientifically derived', does this mean from first principles (as you imply, using degree days, and if so what is the actual derivation,...

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RE: Where heat loss surveys seem to go against practical reality

It is always a good idea to quote sources, some might say it is essential. This time Wattson did get the answer, and it turns out that it is our very ...

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