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'Portrait' orientated ASHP units?

 
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 GlanMenai
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Topic starter 09/09/2021 9:56 am   [#108]

Hello everyone. 

We've been looking to install an ASHP, but, from looking at all the different companies, all the ASHP seems to be in 'landscape' rather than 'portrait' orientation - meaning that they are wider than they are high, and takes up more space on the ground. 

Does anyone know if anyone does any ASHP where the pump is stacked, with the fan underneath/above the system, to make a smaller footprint at all? 

We're pretty low on space for where we can actually install the unit in the back yard, and we're pretty keen on getting one (already ok'ed with planning), so we're just trying to figure out which best units might help us here. 

Many thanks!

 



   
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 batalto
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09/09/2021 10:29 am  

Maybe the RED ones might work for you? - http://www.red-limited.com/


12kW Midea ASHP - 8.4kw solar - 29kWh batteries
262m2 house in Hampshire
Current weather compensation: 47@-2 and 31@17
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09/09/2021 11:35 am  
Posted by: @glanmenai

Hello everyone. 

We've been looking to install an ASHP, but, from looking at all the different companies, all the ASHP seems to be in 'landscape' rather than 'portrait' orientation - meaning that they are wider than they are high, and takes up more space on the ground. 

Does anyone know if anyone does any ASHP where the pump is stacked, with the fan underneath/above the system, to make a smaller footprint at all? 

We're pretty low on space for where we can actually install the unit in the back yard, and we're pretty keen on getting one (already ok'ed with planning), so we're just trying to figure out which best units might help us here. 

Many thanks!

 

@glanmenai

Like the one Mars @editor has?

5B3EC7DA 14DE 43A3 A127 F97A79D5341F

Retrofitted 11.2kw Mitsubishi Ecodan to new radiators commissioned November 2021.
14 x 500w Monocrystalline solar panels.

2 ESS Smile G3 10.1 batteries.
ESS Smile G3 5kw inverter.


   
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 witchcraft
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09/09/2021 11:44 am  

My 12kW Vaillant Aerotherm Plus is properly a portrait format machine too



   
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 GlanMenai
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Topic starter 09/09/2021 12:11 pm  

Hello everyone!

This is amazing - thank you! I hadn't come across any of these in my search, so it's fantastic to see that there is indeed options. @witchcraft - you haven't got a photo of your Valiant have you? That was a brand of ASHP that I was looking into, and really liked their systems.



   
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 witchcraft
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09/09/2021 12:17 pm  
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 Here you are

 



   
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09/09/2021 6:24 pm  

@batalto, we interviewed Graham Hendra today and he says that the RED ASHPs are arguably the best heat pumps on the market, but they come with a hefty price tag.


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09/09/2021 6:27 pm  

@glanmenai, it never even occurred to me that form factor of heat pumps could be an important factor in the decision making process, which makes perfect sense. Great question.


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How Installing a Heating System Became a National Nervous Breakdown
Pre-order with free UK shipping.
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📘 From Zero to Heat Pump Hero
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New to heat pumps?
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Graham Hendra
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10/09/2021 12:49 pm  

good points all, the older way of doing heat pumps was one fan above the other in the tombstone layout or portrait , but this year the trend is to go for short fat single fan units in the landscape layout. Everyone is doing it. Mitsubishi, Vaillant, Daikin, Midea etc and the rest will follow. RED (i love these units so much, i should i am Mr RED, I have one at home) is completely different, they look like a darlek or a compost bin but they are tall so if you want it under a window this might not help.

 


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10/09/2021 2:45 pm  

@grahamh Googled RED.  The whole system looks good.


Retrofitted 11.2kw Mitsubishi Ecodan to new radiators commissioned November 2021.
14 x 500w Monocrystalline solar panels.

2 ESS Smile G3 10.1 batteries.
ESS Smile G3 5kw inverter.


   
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Mars
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10/09/2021 3:05 pm  

@Morgan, the RED systems look really great. I actually like their styling a lot.

@grahamh, you mentioned that these heat pumps are pricier than others on the market. What kind of price difference are we talking about?


🔥 Britain’s Heat Pump Shitshow
How Installing a Heating System Became a National Nervous Breakdown
Pre-order with free UK shipping.
Rewritten and updated for 2027
📘 From Zero to Heat Pump Hero
🛠️ Bodge Buster
New to heat pumps?
Take the Heat Pump Fundamentals course and use INTRO50 at checkout for 50% off.


   
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Graham Hendra
 Graham Hendra
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10/09/2021 3:45 pm  

@morgan if you are struggling to sleep heres a video of a couple of geeks enthusing about it.

enjoy


Heat pump builder, R and D engineer for Haier Europe and head Energy Donkey


   
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