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Who has a V2G EV installation

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Posted by: @agentgeorge

What is foxing me with doing this is getting the type B rcd for CU I have, so I cant move the ASHP from its Cinch CU which has the type B in it :-/

Would that be a Chint RCD perhaps?

Have a look at this topic on high current trips, where I mention a number of potential manufacturers and suppliers for the trip being sought by BatPred.

RCDs TypeB

For the benefit of others wanting to follow this discussion,
this chart shows the features found in the four types of earth leakage trip:

RCD type

The majority of EV chargers are installed using a Type-A trip.

But the OVO Trial of V2G chargers five years ago showed that there was a significant DC component in the fault leakage current.
So they installed Type-B trips from then on.

 

Type-B RCD trips used to be very rare, and cost more than £200 each.

For a V2G charger, it would also need to be bi-directional of course.

It was usually the case that the installer needed a separate RCD and MCB.

However, we are now starting to see manufacturers responding to the market, and designing an RCBO Type-B.

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This one from Proteus is also C-curve.
That means the trip-time is slower than the usual B-curve we find in domestic installations.

A C-curve is less prone to spurious tripping from switch-on surge currents


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Posted by: @scalextrix

Id also add to this thread that V2G (Vehicle to Grid) is not necessarily the same as V2H (Vehicle to Home).  Allowing an energy provider to offtake your car charge to support the grid, wont necessarily allow you to use the car battery to run your ASHP or other home appliances.

I am wondering if in any V2X, would the car battery ever send DC to the EV plug or always AC?

And what happens when a V2X car is plugged into a recent EV charger not designed for it, does it just not work or can it cause any issues if the car attempts to export?

 


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@majordennisbloodnok.  I have been considering a Volkswagen ID 3/4/5, or Skoda Elroque, as the back up to my Tesla Powerwall 3 which ran out of juice during the recent cold snap.

 As I understand it, all these cars are ready for V2H. Is that correct and are you  using V2H?

 I know that a special bi-directional charger is needed, but also that the Zaptec Go2 is available.  None of this makes any sense financially for me, but I just like the idea of getting all my electricity at 7p pKwh. I wonder how long it will be before the 7p is increased substantially.



   
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@broadsman, yes-ish and no.

We bought our ID3 secondhand because it ticked too many boxes at the right time. We were interested in the V2X concept and I looked seriously at it when I saw VW were releasing an over-the-air upgrade to make all models after a certain date V2X-compatible. However, for the ID3 that was only on the 77kWh models and ours is a 58kWh, so no we're not using it. However, I have little doubt that our next purchase will be another VW stable car and that'll need to have a longer range so we can visit family, so V2X is already in our future upgrade plans.

 


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