Joining the Renewable Heating Hub forums is completely free and only takes a minute. By registering you’ll be able to ask questions, join discussions, follow topics you’re interested in, bookmark useful threads and receive notifications when someone replies. Non-registered members also do not have access to our AI features. When choosing your username, please note that it cannot be changed later, so we recommend avoiding brand or product names. Before registering, please take a moment to read the Forum Rules & Terms of Use so we can keep the community helpful, respectful and informative for everyone. Thanks for joining!
Need Help Optimising My Rushed ECO4 Install: 12kW Bosch Heat Pump
Hi, thought I would detail my ECO4 experience. I had a Heat pump installed back in April so this is my first winter, I have found several issues with the ECO4 install and would love any help getting the system to be the best it can.
The install was definitely rushed (1.5 days for a hybrid system), flow temp set at around 55 deg c, heating pump set at max speed, I have since set weather comp, and the pump much slower in auto setting making it much quieter running, water temp currently 36 deg at 10 deg c outside and house is 20.5 deg inside. The heat pump is a 12kw Bosch which I’d think is oversized and maybe short cycling, not sure what to do about that though as won’t be paying to swap it.
One other thing that concerns me is getting the system serviced as engineers seem few and far between where I live on the Llyn Peninsula North wales, I’d love to have the heat loss / radiators checked and the system serviced in the spring, any advice appreciated.
Hi @mickamills . Welcome to the forum.
It sounds like you have made a good start on optimising you heat pump and yes it could well be oversized.
Do you have any previous energy usage figures you could use to compare. Also heat punk is quite easy to use as a heat loss guide.
House-3 bed partial stone bungalow, 5kW Samsung Gen 6 ASHP (Self install)
6.9 kWp of PV
10kWh DC coupled battery
Blog: https://thegreeningofrosecottage.weebly.com/
Heatpump Stats: http://heatpumpmonitor.org/system/view?id=60
Welcome @mickamills
We too have an oversized 12kW Samsung heat pump installed on the ECO4 scheme. We cannot run continuously until outside temps fall to around 5C or below.
In milder weather (10-15C), we tend to run our heat pump more like a gas boiler, and find that turning it on for an hour or two as required is enough.
At temps of 5-10C, we turn off for 8-10 hours overnight which allows the heat pump to reheat the house during the day and allows for longer continuous running.
Once temps fall below 5C, we can run continuously, but we still tend to turn off overnight unless temps drop well below freezing.
We are pretty much able to run flow temps of 32-33C all year round, which is the lowest flow temperatures at which our radiators can emit the heat being produced (we may need to increase to 35C if temps fall below freezing, but we do not normally get below freezing daytime temps).
So overall having an oversized heat pump isn't the end of the world, and we still get excellent efficiency, primarily due to the low flow temps we are able to run at. Remember that you use relatively little energy in the spring and autumn, and most during the winter months when it is colder and your heat pump can operate continuously. An advantage is you may see less defrost cycles in very cold weather as your heat pump is not going to be working flat out tying to keep the house warm, but may only be ticking over at 50%
Samsung 12kW gen6 ASHP with 50L volumiser and large radiators. 7.2kWp solar (south facing), Tesla PW3 (13.5kW). Net Zero
- 27 Forums
- 2,745 Topics
- 64.5 K Posts
- 707 Online
- 7,149 Members
Join Us!
Installer Finder
Degrees of Separation
Latest Posts
-
RE: Who's your electricity provider and what's your tariff?
@toodles I invested on Miele a pair of frodge frozor wh...
By AgentGeorge , 47 minutes ago
-
RE: Flushing system, cleaning and inhibitor
Flush and fill all complete. Octopus kindly gave us a...
By Old_Scientist , 57 minutes ago
-
RE: Wood burner with ASHP - direct air?
For what it's worth I installed a wood burner in this o...
By BlizzardGreen , 2 hours ago
-
@editor Thanks for your response and recommendations. ...
By DavidB , 9 hours ago
-
RE: Do I add Air Con or MVHR to existing A2W ASHP?
I think I saw a diagram for an exhaust air dhw tank wit...
By JamesPa , 23 hours ago
-
RE: Indevolt Batteries UK Support & Info Thread
Thanks, however that's an answer to a subtly different ...
By JamesPa , 3 days ago
-
RE: Solar Power Output – Let’s Compare Generation Figures
@toodles Such elegant symmetry. look at my lumpy bag of...
By Papahuhu , 4 days ago
-
RE: PV and battery long payback - sense check query
Quite probably not, but you can get a 32A relay and a S...
By JamesPa , 4 days ago
-
RE: Starting Our Heat Pump Journey: 1962 build 3 bed detached house
@ian-s Look forward to making contact soon! Regards, To...
By Toodles , 4 days ago
-
I don't notice mine defrosting, and most of the time Im...
By JamesPa , 5 days ago
-
RE: Do I need to change the control unit when replacing my Ecodan Air Source Heat Pump
Kind of you, @calumm, but it was @f1p who did the heavy...
By Majordennisbloodnok , 5 days ago
-
RE: Electricity price predictions
2. As EV ownershp increases it'll certainly increase de...
By EtchedPixels , 6 days ago




