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Love veg, hate watering cans
Another year, another drought. My wife and I have been looking pretty seriously into how we can keep our home grown veg watered without resorting to watering cans.
Historically, we’ve had quite a few water butts dotted around to the extent we have a store of up to 800 litres of useable rainwater (discounting the dregs you can never get out). That is sufficient at a stretch to keep the veg watered for about a week, but the prospect of month long dry spells becoming more normal means we felt we had to do something. In addition, our last few years have seen OK onions, carrots, spuds etc. but we haven’t had the time to get out and watering manually often enough to keep up with demand.
Our first step has been to get a water butt pump. Brilliant. That on its own cut down the effort and time needed for doing a thorough watering. However, it was obvious a lot of that precious water was getting wasted so our next step was to get a lot of soaker hose and a job lot of connectors so we could lay soaker hose on each separate bed. Another game changer. Now we can connect the pump to a hose, the other end of the hose to a soaker and leave it for half an hour as it slowly targets a good amount of water where it’s needed with minimal evaporation.
All well and good, but we still ran out of rainwater a while back so, whilst we can still legally use the soaker hose with mains water we’ve decided we’re going to get three more water tanks - each about 800 litres - to increase our store. We’ve seen we can connect them all together so we can use a pump from just one location, and my next plans are to run semi permanently some hose to a manifold and then to each of the beds so we don’t have to keep trogging the hose all over the place. Final step will be some solenoid valves hooked up to Home Assistant, but that’s a way off yet.
What has surprised me is just how much of all this is pretty cheap. The tanks are, of course, a big investment but as long as you avoid the big brand names things like soaker hose are way better than I expected.
Since this is still all work in progress, I’m very open to ideas and everyone else’s experiences. How are the green fingered amongst you managing?
105 m2 bungalow in South East England
Mitsubishi Ecodan 8.5 kW air source heat pump
18 x 360W solar panels
1 x 6 kW GroWatt battery and SPH5000 inverter
1 x Myenergi Zappi
1 x VW ID3
Raised beds for home-grown veg and chickens for eggs
"Semper in excretia; sumus solum profundum variat"
Living in Wales helps we also keep our garden as a wildlife garden so the water loss is much lower as we've got no lawn and everything has a good depth of ground cover around anything we grow. Dehumidifier, heatpump tumble drier and aircon water all goes into the water butts. Would be nice to use grey water better but it's tricky as a listed building, especially one with victorian plumbing where bits of it reflect the idea of separating waste water and sewerage hadn't yet caught on.
Probably should start keeping the plug in the bath afterwards and then using the water on the plants.
Tomatoes are in the conservatory (it's useless for anything but capturing heat and in summer being a greenhouse) and are doing ridiculously well.
Seriously considering sticking old solar panels "temporarily" over the beds each spring-autumn if this kind of weather or worse becomes the new normal. Might even wire them up.
I’ve considered using grey water and even gone so far as to find a couple of designs for making DIY grey water filters. However, our watering requirements are almost exclusively for veg and I’d prefer not to experiment too much yet with what we consume. Oh, and donating a grey watered crop to our neighbours to see how they get on is probably not a good idea either.
I like the reuse of condensate from your appliances; pity we haven’t any of them. Sounds like you have a good setup, though.
105 m2 bungalow in South East England
Mitsubishi Ecodan 8.5 kW air source heat pump
18 x 360W solar panels
1 x 6 kW GroWatt battery and SPH5000 inverter
1 x Myenergi Zappi
1 x VW ID3
Raised beds for home-grown veg and chickens for eggs
"Semper in excretia; sumus solum profundum variat"
For the last few months we've taken the simple measure of saving grey water in the kitchen sink washing-up bowl and using it to water ornamental plants in the garden - just carrying it out and putting it on the borders.
It's surprising how much you collect, saving up water from hand-washing (using bar soap, rather than chemical liquid soaps), rinsing veg, water drained from cooking (unsalted/free of food), and switched from using the dishwasher to hand-washing dishes in the sink with Ecover.
Oh, I’m convinced about using grey water but not for veg without being filtered first. Unfortunately we don’t really have any ornamental plants.
Given how simple the filtering looks, I suspect that’ll be a project for in a year or two I think.
105 m2 bungalow in South East England
Mitsubishi Ecodan 8.5 kW air source heat pump
18 x 360W solar panels
1 x 6 kW GroWatt battery and SPH5000 inverter
1 x Myenergi Zappi
1 x VW ID3
Raised beds for home-grown veg and chickens for eggs
"Semper in excretia; sumus solum profundum variat"
@majordennisbloodnok By then, that may be the only water available!🫢
Toodles, heats his home with cold draughts and cooks food with magnets.
Posted by: @toodles@majordennisbloodnok By then, that may be the only water available!🫢
If that turns out to be the case, I’ll either sink a borehole to avoid the water company altogether or take a leaf out of your book and start growing solar panels instead; I’ve heard they don’t need as much watering.
105 m2 bungalow in South East England
Mitsubishi Ecodan 8.5 kW air source heat pump
18 x 360W solar panels
1 x 6 kW GroWatt battery and SPH5000 inverter
1 x Myenergi Zappi
1 x VW ID3
Raised beds for home-grown veg and chickens for eggs
"Semper in excretia; sumus solum profundum variat"
@etchedpixels You are Bob Flowerdew and ICMFP.😉
Toodles, heats his home with cold draughts and cooks food with magnets.
@majordennisbloodnok Maybe solar panels aren’t too keen on clay soil, ours haven’t grown a millimetre since laying them down - though this last months produce has been very impressive! Rewards, Toodles.
Toodles, heats his home with cold draughts and cooks food with magnets.
Posted by: @etchedpixels@toodles Peeing on your vegetables is also an option and a good one for many of them.
Actually, our dog does that quite regularly, but we probably use more water washing the veg (for the obvious reason) than the dog donated in the first place.
Oh, and given my wife is the main gardener, God only knows how I’d fare if she caught me craftily doing my business all over her hard work.
105 m2 bungalow in South East England
Mitsubishi Ecodan 8.5 kW air source heat pump
18 x 360W solar panels
1 x 6 kW GroWatt battery and SPH5000 inverter
1 x Myenergi Zappi
1 x VW ID3
Raised beds for home-grown veg and chickens for eggs
"Semper in excretia; sumus solum profundum variat"
They have their downsides but boreholes are great in this weather. We're able to continue to water the garden as before. We run one of the vegetable patches and the fruit cage on soaker hose and this works extremely well. The remainder of the garden is watered with a hose pipe or via watering cans refilled from copious quantities of water buts.
Boreholes are great in that we can avoid water metering and this saves a fortune in our place as our sewerage charges run on an assessed usage rather than rateable value.
Trouble is, if the pump or any other part of the system packs up or we have a power cut, we are toast. We have batteries installed and these mitigate power outages ... which are a constant problem in rural areas such as ours.
Escaped to the country : central Devon - 280 sqm converted mill - 4KW Solar - 15 KWh Battery - UFH - Vaillant Arotherm V2 Plus 12KW (soon!)
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