Renewable Heating Hub Heat Pump Forums

Search with Wattson
Forums
Sustainable Sidetra...
DIY
Magnetised water
 
Notifications
Clear all

Joining the Renewable Heating Hub forums is completely free and only takes a minute. By registering you’ll be able to ask questions, join discussions, follow topics you’re interested in, bookmark useful threads and receive notifications when someone replies. Non-registered members also do not have access to our AI features. When choosing your username, please note that it cannot be changed later, so we recommend avoiding brand or product names. Before registering, please take a moment to read the Forum Rules & Terms of Use so we can keep the community helpful, respectful and informative for everyone. Thanks for joining!

Magnetised water

 
DIY
Last Post by batalto 4 years ago
7 Posts
3 Users
8 Reactions
2,744 Views
RSS
Mars
 Mars
(@editor)
Illustrious Member Admin
Joined: 6 years ago
Posts: 4834
Topic starter 19/04/2022 9:33 am   [#404]

Based on our veg and plant growing, we've started to use magnets on our hosepipes (from Plantsurge) to magnetise the water and it's been an experiment that is working out quite well. There are a lot of skeptics when it comes to the subject of magnetised water, and I've done a lot of reading on the subject (magnetised water and its effects on plants) and it's a fascinating subject (to me anyway) and our seedlings this year have been stronger and bigger than ever before.

As part of my reading though, on the subject of heating and water, I came across studies that showed that magnetised water combats limescale and will therefore prolong the life of boilers (probably heat pumps too) and water pumps. So we fitted a PlantsurgeXL last month –  https://www.bit.ly/plantsurgeXL.

We descaled our kettle (which would get small deposits) and one month on our kettle is limescale free.

 


🔥 Britain’s Heat Pump Shitshow
How Installing a Heating System Became a National Nervous Breakdown
Pre-order with free UK shipping.
Rewritten and updated for 2027
📘 From Zero to Heat Pump Hero
🛠️ Bodge Buster
New to heat pumps?
Take the Heat Pump Fundamentals course and use INTRO50 at checkout for 50% off.


   
Quote
 batalto
(@batalto)
Noble Member Member
Joined: 5 years ago
Posts: 1092
19/04/2022 4:30 pm  

Our plumber fitted one of these type of things prior to the water entering our hot water tank. Not sure if it actually works though


12kW Midea ASHP - 8.4kw solar - 29kWh batteries
262m2 house in Hampshire
Current weather compensation: 47@-2 and 31@17
My current performance can be found - HERE
Heat pump calculator spreadsheet - HERE


   
👍
2
ReplyQuote
 Smoke me a Kipper
(@smoke-me-a-kipper)
Eminent Member Member
Joined: 5 years ago
Posts: 12
20/04/2022 3:03 pm  

As an industrial chemist I'm really curious to know exactly what in water you think you are magnetizing?



   
👍
2
ReplyQuote
Mars
 Mars
(@editor)
Illustrious Member Admin
Joined: 6 years ago
Posts: 4834
Topic starter 20/04/2022 8:58 pm  

@smoke-me-a-kipper, perhaps the term “magnetizing” is incorrect. From my reading, magnetic fields can physically affect the properties of water, and this in turn can play a role in physiological and biochemical reactions. This has been proven in plant and veg studies, but I’ve not been able to ascertain how the physical properties of water are affected - maybe you can cast some insights given your background. 


🔥 Britain’s Heat Pump Shitshow
How Installing a Heating System Became a National Nervous Breakdown
Pre-order with free UK shipping.
Rewritten and updated for 2027
📘 From Zero to Heat Pump Hero
🛠️ Bodge Buster
New to heat pumps?
Take the Heat Pump Fundamentals course and use INTRO50 at checkout for 50% off.


   
ReplyQuote
 batalto
(@batalto)
Noble Member Member
Joined: 5 years ago
Posts: 1092
21/04/2022 11:09 am  

@smoke-me-a-kipper no idea if it works, plumber just fitted one when he was installing. I did look into it and apparently its to do with the magnetic field causing the scale crystals to form. This makes them less likely to deposit themselves onto surfaces. I'm an engineer not a chemist so I've attached a paper from the Journal of petroleum for you to read.

I'd personally advise skipping to the conclusions

Prior studies have shown that the application of magnetic field treatment can inhibit the formation of mineral-ion scale in both water andrich MEG systems (AL Helal et al., 2018; AL Helal et al., 2019) - I've also included both of these for your bedtime reading

j.jcis.2017.09.028.pdf
j.petrol.2018.09.100.pdf
j.petrol.2019.04.093.pdf

 

 


12kW Midea ASHP - 8.4kw solar - 29kWh batteries
262m2 house in Hampshire
Current weather compensation: 47@-2 and 31@17
My current performance can be found - HERE
Heat pump calculator spreadsheet - HERE


   
👍
2
ReplyQuote
Mars
 Mars
(@editor)
Illustrious Member Admin
Joined: 6 years ago
Posts: 4834
Topic starter 02/05/2022 10:14 am  

@batalto, for some reason I missed your reply and I'll read this paper tonight.

It's been interesting to see how many people have dismissed us using Plantsurge for our plants and veg with no basis, and some cited Wikipedia as their literary source. Our seedlings have never looked better.

Last week, I read two medical studies that have stated there could be benefits to magnetising mains water coming into the house that we consume because it can, amongst numerous things, lower the risk of diabetes. 


🔥 Britain’s Heat Pump Shitshow
How Installing a Heating System Became a National Nervous Breakdown
Pre-order with free UK shipping.
Rewritten and updated for 2027
📘 From Zero to Heat Pump Hero
🛠️ Bodge Buster
New to heat pumps?
Take the Heat Pump Fundamentals course and use INTRO50 at checkout for 50% off.


   
ReplyQuote
 batalto
(@batalto)
Noble Member Member
Joined: 5 years ago
Posts: 1092
02/05/2022 12:48 pm  

@editor I prefer to look at where studies are published, who published them and are they peer reviewed. Anyone can publish anything they like.

Also correlation is not causation. Just because something looks connected, doesn't mean it is. For example if everyone magnetising their water happens to be a health freak with a BMI of 20 there is little chance of diabetes (type 2) Vs someone who eats takeaway every day and has a BMI of 40


12kW Midea ASHP - 8.4kw solar - 29kWh batteries
262m2 house in Hampshire
Current weather compensation: 47@-2 and 31@17
My current performance can be found - HERE
Heat pump calculator spreadsheet - HERE


   
👍
2
ReplyQuote
Forum Jump:
  Previous Topic
Next Topic  
Share:

SPONSORS

Join Us!

Installer Finder

Degrees of Separation

Latest Posts

SPONSORS

Members Online

Click to access the login or register cheese
Protected By
Shield Security PRO