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Ground source heat pump is unaffordable to run

 
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Ground Source Heat Pump (GSHPs)
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 GSHPwoes
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Topic starter 26/01/2024 1:18 pm  

@hughf I don’t think the immersion is on?

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26/01/2024 1:31 pm  

@gshpwoes you can cancel the legionella program for a start. Total waste of time, unless you’re 85 and immunocompromised.


Off grid on the isle of purbeck
2.4kW solar, 15kWh Seplos Mason, Outback power systems 3kW inverter/charger, solid fuel heating with air/air for shoulder months, 10 acres of heathland/woods.

My wife’s house: 1946 3 bed end of terrace in Somerset, ASHP with rads + UFH, triple glazed, retrofit IWI in troublesome rooms, small rear extension.


   
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26/01/2024 1:49 pm  

Posted by: @gshpwoes
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@hughf I don’t think the immersion is on?

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It certainly appears that way…. Although having your gshp on a c50 seems somewhat excessive. However, I expect it’s because it isn’t an inverter machine, a lot of older gshp weren’t. With that come quite a sharp startup surge when the compressor fires up.

Do you know the model number of the unit, the design flow temperature, and the heat loss calcs for the property?

 


Off grid on the isle of purbeck
2.4kW solar, 15kWh Seplos Mason, Outback power systems 3kW inverter/charger, solid fuel heating with air/air for shoulder months, 10 acres of heathland/woods.

My wife’s house: 1946 3 bed end of terrace in Somerset, ASHP with rads + UFH, triple glazed, retrofit IWI in troublesome rooms, small rear extension.


   
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26/01/2024 3:56 pm  

@gshpwoes, which part of the country are you in?


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Topic starter 26/01/2024 4:00 pm  

@editor south east scotland



   
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28/01/2024 3:43 pm  

@gshpwoes Unfortunately, from looking at the pictures, and the components used, you more than likely have a serious flow issue.



   
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Topic starter 28/01/2024 3:58 pm  

@heacol can I do anything about this?? 🤞



   
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Topic starter 29/01/2024 5:59 pm  

@heacol hoping you can advise if this is a fixable problem and if it is, how..? 🤞



   
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03/02/2024 11:09 pm  

@gshpwoes I received the following reply from the Heat Pump Federation directly relating to your case: 

As the machine is nearly ten years old, it probably doesn't have very good Internet connectivity for remote diagnosis. If the homeowner wants to email the Federation with whatever design materials they have, we'll see what can be inferred, before sending someone along and incurring that sort of cost. For example, with the postcode, we could review the EPC (Scottish equivalent) and the geology, to get a feel for system sizing. The fact that the radiators are cold in parts suggests a balancing problem. That could be dealt with by a competent heating technician/engineer because distribution problems are common to all technologies to a large extent. So they could find a good local central heating provider to look at that bit of the system.

Apart from that, have you made any progress with your system?


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26/02/2024 9:48 am  

@gshpwoes did you ever resolve your issues above?


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