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DREI
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Posted by: @editor

Things have gone quiet with you @drei. Any updates?

Just a brief update to keep things transparent.

Section 75 (MBNA)

  • My Section 75 claim is still ongoing.

  • MBNA have all the evidence: independent expert assessment, multiple remedial quotes (including Heat Geek Elite installers), radiator sizing errors, buffer temperature losses, and energy-use data.

  • I am awaiting their final decision so remedial works can proceed.

EPC Improvements

  • Following my Subject Access Request in September, EPC briefly re-engaged in November.

  • I shared clear data, calculations, and manufacturer-backed evidence and asked them to confirm whether they agreed or disagreed.

  • Communication stopped the same day (10 November) and only resumed weeks later to say they would “review the data”.

  • As of now, no technical response or remediation proposal has been provided.

System Performance (Actual Data)

  • I now have over two years of logged data directly from the heat pump.

  • Monthly SCOP has consistently sat between 1.9 and 2.5, averaging around 2.3.

  • This is well below the 3.9 SCOP stated in EPC’s design documentation.

  • Cold months continue to cost £400–£600 per month, with supplementary electric heaters still required.

Where Things Stand

  • This is now the third winter with an underperforming system.

  • The issues have been independently verified by multiple qualified engineers.

  • I am simply waiting for MBNA to conclude the claim so I can proceed with proper remedial work and finally have a functional heating system.

 

One further point worth noting is that system performance has only improved after I increased the weather compensation curve and allowed the heat pump to run at much higher flow temperatures (up to 60 °C). While this has resulted in improved comfort and a modest increase in observed SCOP compared to the first winter, it effectively means the system is now operating closer to a high-temperature boiler regime rather than as a properly designed low-temperature heat-pump system. Even in this configuration, we still rely on a continuously running 2.8 kW oil-filled electric radiator in the living room to maintain comfort. This reinforces the conclusion that the original emitter sizing and hydraulic design are fundamentally inadequate, and that acceptable comfort is only being achieved by sacrificing efficiency and supplementing the system with direct electric heating.

I’ll update again once a final outcome is reached.

 

MONTH ASHP kWh ASHP Output ASHP SCOP
Oct 2023 19 Days Faulty Heat Pump
Nov 2023 1291.9 3053.5 2.36
Dec 2023 1095.9 2657.3 2.42
Jan 2024 1594.5 3473.8 2.18
Feb 2024 1261.8 3043.7 2.41
Mar 2024 896.9 2225.5 2.48
Apr 2024 650.2 1245.7 1.92
May 2024 438.5 827 1.89
Jun 2024 259.9 495.4 1.91
Jul 2024 196.4 365.2 1.86
Aug 2024 156.9 297.3 1.89
Sep 2024 329.6 700.2 2.12
Oct 2024 677.9 1318.6 1.95
Nov 2024 963.5 2117 2.20
Dec 2024 963.9 2359.1 2.45
Jan 2025 1609.6 3837.9 2.38
Feb 2025 1174.8 2755.4 2.35
Mar 2025 847.2 1839 2.17
Apr 2025 535.8 1227.7 2.29
May 2025 337.3 796.7 2.36
Jun 2025 143.8 311.4 2.17
Jul 2025 137 317.8 2.32
Aug 2025 156 385.1 2.47
Sep 2025 370.6 937.6 2.53
Oct 2025 800.4 2039.3 2.55
Nov 2025 1022.5 2363.5 2.31
Dec 2025 990.6 2442.5 2.47
Jan 2026 1031.9 2097.6 2.03
       
       
       
       
       
       
       
       
       
       
       
       
       
SCOP 19935.3 45530.8 2.28

 

 



   
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DREI
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Posted by: @editor

Things have gone quiet with you @drei. Any updates?

Just a brief update to keep things transparent.

Section 75 (MBNA)

  • My Section 75 claim is still ongoing.
  • MBNA have all the evidence: independent expert assessment, multiple remedial quotes (including Heat Geek Elite installers), radiator sizing errors, buffer temperature losses, and energy-use data.
  • I am awaiting their final decision so remedial works can proceed.

EPC Improvements

  • Following my Subject Access Request in September, EPC briefly re-engaged in November.
  • I shared clear data, calculations, and manufacturer-backed evidence and asked them to confirm whether they agreed or disagreed.
  • Communication stopped the same day (10 November) and only resumed weeks later to say they would “review the data”.
  • As of now, no technical response or remediation proposal has been provided.

System Performance (Actual Data)

  • I now have over two years of logged data directly from the heat pump.
  • Monthly SCOP has consistently sat between 1.9 and 2.5, averaging around 2.3.
  • This is well below the 3.9 SCOP stated in EPC’s design documentation.
  • Cold months continue to cost £400–£600 per month, with supplementary electric heaters still required.

Where Things Stand

  • This is now the third winter with an underperforming system.
  • The issues have been independently verified by multiple qualified engineers.
  • I am simply waiting for MBNA to conclude the claim so I can proceed with proper remedial work and finally have a functional heating system.

 

One further point worth noting is that system performance has only improved after I increased the weather compensation curve and allowed the heat pump to run at much higher flow temperatures (up to 60 °C). While this has resulted in improved comfort and a modest increase in observed SCOP compared to the first winter, it effectively means the system is now operating closer to a high-temperature boiler regime rather than as a properly designed low-temperature heat-pump system. Even in this configuration, we still rely on a continuously running 2.8 kW oil-filled electric radiator in the living room to maintain comfort. This reinforces the conclusion that the original emitter sizing and hydraulic design are fundamentally inadequate, and that acceptable comfort is only being achieved by sacrificing efficiency and supplementing the system with direct electric heating.

I’ll update again once a final outcome is reached.

 

MONTH

ASHP kWh

ASHP Output

ASHP SCOP

Oct 2023

19 Days Faulty Heat Pump

Nov 2023

1291.9

3053.5

2.36

Dec 2023

1095.9

2657.3

2.42

Jan 2024

1594.5

3473.8

2.18

Feb 2024

1261.8

3043.7

2.41

Mar 2024

896.9

2225.5

2.48

Apr 2024

650.2

1245.7

1.92

May 2024

438.5

827

1.89

Jun 2024

259.9

495.4

1.91

Jul 2024

196.4

365.2

1.86

Aug 2024

156.9

297.3

1.89

Sep 2024

329.6

700.2

2.12

Oct 2024

677.9

1318.6

1.95

Nov 2024

963.5

2117

2.20

Dec 2024

963.9

2359.1

2.45

Jan 2025

1609.6

3837.9

2.38

Feb 2025

1174.8

2755.4

2.35

Mar 2025

847.2

1839

2.17

Apr 2025

535.8

1227.7

2.29

May 2025

337.3

796.7

2.36

Jun 2025

143.8

311.4

2.17

Jul 2025

137

317.8

2.32

Aug 2025

156

385.1

2.47

Sep 2025

370.6

937.6

2.53

Oct 2025

800.4

2039.3

2.55

Nov 2025

1022.5

2363.5

2.31

Dec 2025

990.6

2442.5

2.47

Jan 2026

1031.9

2097.6

2.03

 

 

 

 

SCOP

19935.3

45530.8

2.28

 

 

 



   
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