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	RE: Why are ASHP installs so expensive? By Rob of York, 4 weeks ago Forum Air Source Heat Pumps (ASHPs)
	Posted by: @jamespa You can avoid this by knowing what your house loss either from a single survey or your gas consumption, and roughly how many rad changes you need (which would be from a survey) an...
	RE: Why are ASHP installs so expensive? By springswood, 4 weeks ago Forum Air Source Heat Pumps (ASHPs)
	Thanks for all the interesting responses. I managed to find that YouTube clip I mentioned (Everything Home - Why I snubbed an Octopus heat pump install) where he has at least twice as many bedrooms a...
	RE: Why are ASHP installs so expensive? By JamesPa, 4 weeks ago Forum Air Source Heat Pumps (ASHPs)
	Thanks. I am personally on the page of measuring house loss (and I did it myself). We are not yet at the stage of creating 'content' (but we are getting there), I fully intend there to be strong enc...
	RE: Why are ASHP installs so expensive? By JamesPa, 4 weeks ago Forum Air Source Heat Pumps (ASHPs)
	They dont have to justify in cost terms, thats how competition works. Are the prices of Apple products justifiable in cost terms, of course not, but people still buy them, and those who, like me, don...
	RE: Why are ASHP installs so expensive? By Rob of York, 4 weeks ago Forum Air Source Heat Pumps (ASHPs)
	@springswood Your real world quotes leave me completely puzzled as to how the prices are justified in cost terms. Assuming refundable deposits, then that's potentially quite some cost to be covered b...
	RE: Why are ASHP installs so expensive? By JamesPa, 4 weeks ago Forum Air Source Heat Pumps (ASHPs)
	Its not really the survey, there was a fairly complete list further up the thread It is and what makes the difference is presumably overheads, workload, supurfluous work/components and 'rip of...
	RE: Why are ASHP installs so expensive? By Rob of York, 4 weeks ago Forum Air Source Heat Pumps (ASHPs)
	Posted by: @jamespa Thats very interesting, I am on a Local Authority group which is looking at how to smooth the end to end process for various types of retrofit. That's a great initiative. Expert...
	RE: Why are ASHP installs so expensive? By springswood, 4 weeks ago Forum Air Source Heat Pumps (ASHPs)
	While heat loss is a very important (and fascinating) subject I find it hard to believe that accounts for a high proportion of the cost of an installation. It's a few hours work on site and a few more...
	RE: Heat Pump deployment statistics: June 2026 By Temperature_Gradient, 4 weeks ago Forum Air Source Heat Pumps (ASHPs)
	To my eyes, sat behind all of this is a basic policy making failure to recognize that we're dealing with heating 'systems' and that if you want to replace/retorfit a fundamental component, the heat-so...
	RE: Heat Pump deployment statistics: June 2026 By JamesPa, 4 weeks ago Forum Air Source Heat Pumps (ASHPs)
	@editor I think our differences are subtler. I agree that 25k good installs is better than 200k poor ones. However I also think that the only way to deliver quality at any volume is to aim for 200k...
	RE: Heat Pump deployment statistics: June 2026 By Mars, 4 weeks ago Forum Air Source Heat Pumps (ASHPs)
	I’m not particularly alarmed by the drop. In fact, part of me is quite glad to see it. There is an obvious structural factor here first that needs to be mentioned. ECO4 is now effectively in run-down ...
	RE: Heat Pump Books For Beginners: The Ultimate Guide to Heat Pumps, Bodge Buster, From Zero To Heat Pump Hero & Britain's Heat Pump Shitshow By Mars, 4 weeks ago Forum Air Source Heat Pumps (ASHPs)
	Thank you @majordennisbloodnok – that means a lot, particularly coming from somebody who understands both the technology and the forum cases behind the satire. You’ve captured exactly what I was tryin...