Thanks @lucia I look forward to some technical facts as well as executive summaries. The foreign reports are not separate investigations just translation from El Pais. Browsing the Spanish press (looking for trade press reports) there was some speculation on the contribution from some form of corruption. Is this something you have any fact on rather than the speculation?
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The first press reporting is out Here's a brief synopsis from Spanish media:
The big Blackout El Apagón:
Yes I realise I'm picking this up a week late... ... but I don't like the way in which the Spanish Minister, Sara Aagesen, has released this to the press.
1: There's too much 'apportioning of blame', which isn't helpful.
When a complex situation has resulted in a national outage, you need to encourage feedback from all those involved technically. Attacking regulatory and technical mistakes by Red Eléctrica, will have the opposite effect.
Who, from a technical background, would now want to work with a Minister who's going to throw the mess all over you when something goes wrong in future?
2: Text-based descriptions of power surges and fluctuations are next to useless.
Any such report must be accompanied by timelines showing the relevant data.
Only when the reader sees the periodicity and level of such fluctuations is it possible to appreciate what the Grid Operator could and could not do with the tools they had available to them at the time.
3: Whyever does the Spanish Government think there's anything to be gained by issuing a press release in advance of the main technical report.
Any incorrect observations and opinions that have been made by the Minister, are now almost impossible to retract!
this document extensively describes (in a non-blame, neutral manner) the WHAT of the voltage/frequency of the Spanish black-out but doesn’t begin to describe the WHY. Hence no corrective recommendations to prevent re-occurrence. It does state the black-out is the first incidence associated with an over-voltage state. I look forward to the WHY! @transparent may be satisfied with the time resolution but to me it just looks like symptoms collecting without (yet) understanding. But the underlying and implied regular oscillation between east and west Spain looks like an acceptance of marginal stability to me.
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@mike-patrick Well, if Europe is stalling partly due to energy costs, what does that say about the UK with our exorbitant electricity prices?! Regards, Toodles.
Toodles, he heats his home with cold draughts and cooks his food with magnets.
1) how many of us in this forum would've paid for heat pumps without the BUS grant?
2) A big part of Europe has had air-to-air heat pumps for donkey's years but didn't call them that. Sweden is largely 'heat pumped up' (by smart early policy design) etc.,
3) A 22% drop in sales is big
4) the lack of qualified installers is a massive problem in a large part caused by disjointed policy design AND the decimation of national training courses and qualifications (see my previous comment about the death of FE in Britain). This neoliberal thing is bad for societies...
5) We're heading for a major gas glut which my analysts and traders predicted a year ago, gas prices are likely to drop just adding to the pressure on decarbonisation.
6) Appearance of kit outside homes? Hang your head in shame Daikin (and Vaillant, Nibe etc.,). I love my Daikin heat pump, it is a very good piece of equipment but clearly looks were not a priority... It's not rocket science to sort this out.
7) Maybe if this nonsense 'rearm Europe defence policy' was seen as the lobby that it is and more joined up thinking on green energy was rolled out this wouldn't be a problem but sadly our leaders are unable to actually lead. My opinion? Mediocrity Rules! [😩🤦🏻♀️]
8] Some of Daikin's statement is lobbying, keep this in mind, but it's true Europe is faltering and Daikin is correct to raise this. This will be on my list of Qs in Brussels next week.
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