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The Hidden Secret to a Successful Heat Pump: Pipe Size Matters

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@editor, Can the pipe be too large? We have 32mm to our HP with a 5kW heapt pump.  Apart from the cost and the amount of water that is in the pipe losing heat, is there an issue with the pipe being too big?

It's a new build and the pipes to the HP are under the slab. They were put in very early on and I was given the spec of a pre insulated pipe to order when we were digging the foundations. I had very minimal understand of what was needed for a heat pump at that point and thought builders etc. knew what they were talking about. 2 years further on I know to question everything in much more detail.



   
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Posted by: @johnnyb

@editor, Can the pipe be too large? We have 32mm to our HP with a 5kW heapt pump.  Apart from the cost and the amount of water that is in the pipe losing heat, is there an issue with the pipe being too big?

The only disadvantage of a bigger pipe is that the water will take longer to move through it, so has more time to lose heat.  On the other hand there is less (as a proportion) exposed to the outside so the rate of heat loss per unit volume of water is less.  Im not sure which effect is greater, but I wouldn't worry about it assuming the pipe is well insulated.  If you have proper, professional, preinsulated pipe with closed cell insulation (so it doesn't get wet) like this (very expensive, a pig to work with, but whats needed) then you should be fine.


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Posted by: @jamespa

like this (very expensive, a pig to work with, but whats needed)

Yes, very similar to that and it was hard work to get into place. 

I put a temperature gauge on the pipes last night, measuring the flow and return to see how much the temperature drops between the anti freeze cycles, and it dropped about 1 degree in an hour so when the pump is running the loss will be negligable. Even at 14 ltrs/minute the water won't be in there very long, although the pipe is about 15mtrs long so there is about 30 ltrs in the two pipes that are underground.

 

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