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Yutaki M (RHUE-3AVHN) + XEK23232A System Controller — DHW reheat randomly fails to start, no fault code, fixed only by power-cycling controller

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Hi all,

Hoping someone here has hit this before, because I've run out of things to check against the manual.

Setup:

  • Heat pump: Hitachi Yutaki M, RHUE-3AVHN, mono-valent (CONF = 1)
  • System Controller: XEK23232A
  • DHW via diverting valve (P1 = 1) — relay on the controller's DHW output closes an external motorized valve to isolate radiators during DHW loading
  • All original Hitachi parts (heat pump, controller, room controller, RF unit, sensors), bought ~2 months ago as an unused/uninstalled unit. Self-installed (DIY).
  • No timer input, no DHW electric heater fitted.

Current parameters: CONF 1, P1 1, P2 0, P3 5, P4 2.0, P5 15, P6 55, P7 1.0, P10 45, P11 5, P12 10, P21 20, P22 2, P23 20, P24 0, P25 0, P26 OFF, P27 4.0, P30 1, P31 3, P34 45

DHW works fine for a while (heats to 45°C, reheats correctly when it drops a few degrees), then randomly just... stops trying. TDHW will be sitting way below the P10‑P11 (40°C) reheat threshold — I've seen it stuck at 19°C — with SDHW = 0, relay de-energized, heat pump in standby, and FAUL = 0 the entire time. No fault, no error, it just doesn't register any DHW demand at all.

The only fix I've found is a full power-cycle of the System Controller — the moment it comes back up, it immediately starts heating the tank correctly (confirmed via power consumption monitoring). It's not slow to respond either — I measured a 19°C → 34°C rise in 21 minutes after a restart, so a full recovery clearly finishes well under an hour. That rules out the "Maximum DHW Loading Time" (P27) safety timeout as the cause, since there's no way a normal reheat cycle is running anywhere near that long.

What I've already ruled out / fixed along the way:

  • P26 (Summer Switch-Off) was blocking all heating in summer — fixed, set to OFF.
  • P30 (No-Load Function) was disabled, causing pointless cold-water circulation with zero demand — fixed, set to 1.
  • Wiring/relay confirmed correct (on the DHW output, not the heating output).
  • No parameter changes between a successful reheat cycle and the next failed one — it just silently stopped registering demand.

Question:

Has anyone seen the System Controller silently stop registering DHW demand (SDHW stuck at 0) despite TDHW being clearly below the reheat threshold, with no fault code, that only clears on a power-cycle? Is there some internal state/timer not covered in the SMGB0066 service manual that could cause this? Any pointers on how to monitor or reset it without a full restart?

Thanks in advance!


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JamesPa
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There arent many of these hitachi pumps around here so you may not get an answer.

I had a not dissimilar fault with my Vaillant albeit I did get a (pretty useless) fault code.  Diagnosis was made easier by a function called 'live view' which is essentially a stream of consciousness display telling you what the heat pump is currently doing and a wat of viewing current values of certain sensors.  If yours has something similar it might be worth watching it while you trigger a DHW cycle, or create the conditions that should trigger a DHW cycle.


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trebor12345
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I had the Hitachi Yutaki 7kw split ASHP system.  As James said, look for the live view settings in the controller might give you a clue as to what is going on. I did find it helpful in understanding what was going on.

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2024 build bungalow, Southern England, 179 m2, 12w/m2
Underfloor heating, fully open
Vaillant aroTHERM plus 3.5kW
50 litre volumiser
3.6KW solar panels
Tesla 13.5kw Powerwall 3


   
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Hi @jamespa , @trebor12345 ,

Thank you both for the reply.

Can you clarify what you mean by "live view settings"? On the System Controller itself, I already have a live sensor readout screen (TDHW, SDHW, TSUP, TRET, S1, SSUP, etc.) which I've been watching closely - that's how I know SDHW stays at 0 even when TDHW is well below the DHW setpoint. If you mean something different/more detailed than that, I'd love to know where to find it.

@trebor12345 - is the "Refrigerant Cycle" screen you posted (TGas, Freq, Td, Curr, Pd, Te, Twi, TLiq, Evi, Evo etc.) what you meant by live view? Is that on the outdoor unit's own display, or accessed through the System Controller / a service tool? I hadn't seen that screen before - happy to look at it during a stall if it's accessible to me, but not sure yet how to read it or what would indicate a problem versus normal operation.

For context, the core symptom is: DHW setpoint (DSET) is 45C, TDHW sits at 19-20C, but SDHW (DHW demand) reads 0 - the controller isn't registering any call for DHW heat at all, despite being far below the reheat threshold (setpoint - differential = 40C). No fault code is ever shown (FAUL = 0).

What we've ruled out / tested so far:
- P26 (Summer Switch-Off) was blocking all heating in summer - fixed, set to OFF
- P30 (No-Load Function) was disabled, causing pointless continuous cold-water circulation with zero demand - fixed, set to 1
- P27 (Max DHW Loading Time) as a timeout cause - ruled out by directly measuring recovery speed: a full 19C to 45C recovery consistently completes in under 1.5 hours (confirmed via power consumption monitoring), so it's not remotely close to the 2-4hr window we've set for P27
- Fast vs slow TDHW drop rate - deliberately tested this by (a) taking a real bath (fast large draw) and (b) manually cooling the DHW sensor directly with a cold pack for an instant drop - in every one of these tests, SDHW responded correctly and the heat pump started reheating immediately. So a fast drop does NOT appear to reproduce the issue.
- The only reliable fix once it happens is a full power-cycle of the System Controller, which immediately clears it and DHW reheating starts within minutes

So at this point it seems to be a genuinely intermittent state - something silently blocks DHW demand recognition, without triggering any documented protection function (P27, frost protection, tariff/timer block, etc.) and without any fault code, and it doesn't seem tied to how fast or slow TDHW drops. It clears itself with a power-cycle, which is at least a usable workaround, but I'd like to understand the actual cause if possible.

Any pointers to where a deeper "live view"/diagnostic screen exists (System Controller menu, outdoor unit display, or a service tool) would be really appreciated - happy to go capture readings from it next time this happens.

Thanks again for taking the time to help.



   
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trebor12345
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Sent you a private email with contact details for direct support, they will be able to help.


2024 build bungalow, Southern England, 179 m2, 12w/m2
Underfloor heating, fully open
Vaillant aroTHERM plus 3.5kW
50 litre volumiser
3.6KW solar panels
Tesla 13.5kw Powerwall 3


   
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(@rgabor)
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Thank you @trebor12345 



   
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