Forums

Forums
Sustainable Sidetra...
Well & Truly Off Th...
Two interesting hyd...
 
Notifications
Clear all

Two interesting hydrogen graphics

 
Page 1 / 3
Well & Truly Off The Grid
Last Post by robl 4 years ago
35 Posts
9 Users
22 Reactions
8,366 Views
RSS
Mars
 Mars
(@editor)
Illustrious Member Admin
Joined: 5 years ago
Posts: 3786
Topic starter 26/05/2021 6:48 am  

Two interesting hydrogen graphics courtesy of Liebreich Associates.

 

6807FD18 393B 4739 B2ED 28788D8FCCC3
458382D0 E3A6 441E 8776 F5849804F799

Get a copy of The Ultimate Guide to Heat Pumps

Subscribe and follow our Homeowners’ Q&A heat pump podcast


   
Quote
 Kev M
(@kev-m)
Famed Member Member
Joined: 5 years ago
Posts: 1276
26/05/2021 12:56 pm  

Phew, that's a relief.  Nothing to worry about, hydrogen does everything!


This post was modified 5 years ago by Kev M

   
👍
2
ReplyQuote
 Derek M
(@derek-m)
Illustrious Member Member
Joined: 5 years ago
Posts: 4427
26/05/2021 5:11 pm  

The Earth uses Hydrogen heating, so why should we be different.



   
👍
2
ReplyQuote
 Kev M
(@kev-m)
Famed Member Member
Joined: 5 years ago
Posts: 1276
26/05/2021 7:08 pm  

Maybe like this?

https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-00408-1

 



   
👍
2
ReplyQuote
Mars
 Mars
(@editor)
Illustrious Member Admin
Joined: 5 years ago
Posts: 3786
Topic starter 26/05/2021 7:47 pm  
Posted by: @derek-m

The Earth uses Hydrogen heating, so why should we be different.

I guess the issue around heating homes centres around the amount of fossil fuels required to make it viable. 


Get a copy of The Ultimate Guide to Heat Pumps

Subscribe and follow our Homeowners’ Q&A heat pump podcast


   
ReplyQuote
 Baz Cambs
(@baz-cambs)
Active Member Member
Joined: 5 years ago
Posts: 5
06/06/2021 7:29 am  

Storage and transport/transmission of hydrogen is a problem due to the gasses small atoms (I kid you not.)  making it prone to leaks. 

There is no reason why a gas boiler could not be adapted to run on hydrogen though, much like they can be converted to run on LPG.



   
ReplyQuote



 Derek M
(@derek-m)
Illustrious Member Member
Joined: 5 years ago
Posts: 4427
06/06/2021 2:43 pm  

Hi Baz,

There are companies already manufacturing 'Hydrogen ready' gas boilers, which can easily be converted in the future.



   
ReplyQuote
Jeff
 Jeff
(@jeff)
Noble Member Member
Joined: 5 years ago
Posts: 552
30/07/2021 6:23 pm  

Boiler manufacturers guarantee Hydrogen boilers won't cost more, and ask for Hydrogen ready boilers to be mandatory in 2025.

https://www.hvpmag.co.uk/Boiler-manufacturers-band-together-to-make-hydrogen-ready-price-promise/12630

Also talk of a potential Hydrogen levy. 



   
👍
2
ReplyQuote
 Kev M
(@kev-m)
Famed Member Member
Joined: 5 years ago
Posts: 1276
30/07/2021 8:33 pm  

"The Big Four boiler companies compete ferociously against each other, but they have come together for the benefit of UK consumers and the good of the planet and to protect our market share in the face of competition from ASHPs.”

I added the bold bit in case anyone's wondering.  I'm not knocking them btw; setting aside the green arguments around H2, it seems a reasonable commitment.  The ASHP market needs a bit of competition anyway.  

Isn't the transmission more of a problem than the boiler though? 



   
👍
2
ReplyQuote
Mars
 Mars
(@editor)
Illustrious Member Admin
Joined: 5 years ago
Posts: 3786
Topic starter 31/07/2021 12:34 pm  

@kev-m, do you know what the price of hydrogen will be - will it be closer to gas than electricity?


Get a copy of The Ultimate Guide to Heat Pumps

Subscribe and follow our Homeowners’ Q&A heat pump podcast


   
ReplyQuote
Jeff
 Jeff
(@jeff)
Noble Member Member
Joined: 5 years ago
Posts: 552
31/07/2021 3:36 pm  
Posted by: @kev-m

"The Big Four boiler companies compete ferociously against each other, but they have come together for the benefit of UK consumers and the good of the planet and to protect our market share in the face of competition from ASHPs.”

I added the bold bit in case anyone's wondering.  I'm not knocking them btw; setting aside the green arguments around H2, it seems a reasonable commitment.  The ASHP market needs a bit of competition anyway.  

Isn't the transmission more of a problem than the boiler though? 

Hydrogen ready infrastructure upgrades 

https://www.energynetworks.org/newsroom/replacing-britains-old-gas-pipes-from-safeguarding-the-public-to-laying-the-foundations-of-a-zero-carbon-gas-grid



   
ReplyQuote
 Kev M
(@kev-m)
Famed Member Member
Joined: 5 years ago
Posts: 1276
31/07/2021 4:34 pm  

It's quite a spin really, where "reducing emissions" is actually "stopping leaks in our pipes".  It's not so much hydrogen ready, it's just fit for purpose for natural gas.  



   
👍
2
ReplyQuote



Page 1 / 3
Forum Jump:
  Previous Topic
Next Topic  



Share:

Join Us!

Podcast Picks

Latest Posts

Click to access the login or register cheese
x Powerful Protection for WordPress, from Shield Security
This Site Is Protected By
ShieldPRO →