Joining the Renewable Heating Hub forums is completely free and only takes a minute. By registering you’ll be able to ask questions, join discussions, follow topics you’re interested in, bookmark useful threads and receive notifications when someone replies. Non-registered members also do not have access to our AI features. When choosing your username, please note that it cannot be changed later, so we recommend avoiding brand or product names. Before registering, please take a moment to read the Forum Rules & Terms of Use so we can keep the community helpful, respectful and informative for everyone. Thanks for joining!
Grant Aerona 13KW - can I boost it?
Not really a big issue, more curious than anything.
have had a few nights of -5 degrees and I wouldn’t say it’s struggling but it’s not as warm as I’ve seen it before in these conditions.
House is ranging between 18.5 and 20.5 depending on the room. Would say 19.5 average. So it’s not cold or uncomfortable.
i tried to whack it up to 21 just to see how quickly it would get there in these conditions but its not really. Just maintaining. During the day it will creep up slowly and at night just hold its ground.
I did notice that night mode was somehow on and managed to disable that last night.
I’m not qualified to mess with the parameters but I did notice that up and down buttons on their own allow you to increase a temperature or sorts but I don’t know what that means. It was at 27 degrees when I first looked at it and I have increased it to see what happens.
is there anything else I should be doing? Or is it a case of getting it to a higher base before the cold snaps really strike?
So far as I understand it, pressing the up/down has no effect (other than to change the number being shown). In the installation guide:
"Please note: this is not to be used for setting the room temperature control"
I've just adjusted mine (HP currently 'off') and nothing has happened.
You can only use third party controls to alter the target room temperature. Unless your Grant has been installed in some other way, but I don't think it has been (no programmer slots are showing on your controller).
Grant Aerona 3 10kW
Depending on your weather compensation settings, disabling WC and reverting to constant leaving water temperature would work. Depends on what outdoor air temperature corresponds to maximum leaving water temperature. I’ve found my 10KW unit falls short of target LWT by 3-4degC when it goes into regular defrost. No issue with the ability of the ASHP to provide high LWT as it can go up to 60degC for HW cylinder charging in the current cold weather.
@marvinator80 your situation mirrors my own, except my consumption is typically 3-4kW under these conditions. And, like @allyfish, my system falls a few degrees short of target once in frequent defrost territory (every 30-40 mins currently) and never really gets the chance to stabilise, although it's perfectly capable of achieving higher LWTs.
So, a less than optimum heat output combines with the house losing heat a little more rapidly to mean the system can just about keep the place comfortable. My only approach has been to keep the system running as 'low & slow' as I can for near 24/7 operation and to keep IAT pretty stable. Climbing back up the hill with low LWTs takes an age so your point about getting to a higher base is valid I think.
I've recently started Octopus's Cosy tariff and have been experimenting with off-peak boosts. Not really possible to boost at 'low & slow' settings so I end up using weather comp offset to add a few degrees to LWT. Without any auto-adaption this is more manually intensive than I'd like.
2 x 12kW Samsung Gen6 ASHP, 5.6kW solar PV ground mounted c/w 10kWh Puredrive battery & Solis inverter.
Posted by: @dunlorn@marvinator80 a less than optimum heat output combines with the house losing heat a little more rapidly to mean the system can just about keep the place comfortable. My only approach has been to keep the system running as 'low & slow' as I can for near 24/7 operation and to keep IAT pretty stable. Climbing back up the hill with low LWTs takes an age
Ditto here. I can just about keep the house at 19C, but the pain of getting a 1C increase from an overnight setback takes at least 3 hours of daytime, and never quite completes. I think I'll change my setbacks to be higher, and try to run 24/7 with a lower LWT, but that's a change for another day.
Grant Aerona 3 10kW
I've given up on setbacks: when it's cold it just takes too long to recover even from a 1c drop and the pump has to work incredibly hard to get the return temp up to around the 4c below flow that lets the pump get into an economical run state.
With weather compensation it's great to see the power consumption drop off rapidly once the outside air gets above about 3c - we get COP of about 4 to 4.5 at that temp or 5 - 6 above 12c, but below 2c it drops below 4 and worsens under 0. Still benefits massively from having the maximum amount of water volume (all zones wide open) and the minimum flow temp you can get away with, let the rooms settle where they settle high or low.
Compared to last year, when we had thermostats shutting off the flow in each room when they hit temp, and Cop was continually below 3.5, it's a transformation.
Yeah it’s the defrost cycle that’s fecking me up for sure. A few parameter adjustments made and going to get it all to a higher base from above zero, then it should maintain ok. I hope.
house has really been 19.5 during day but waking up to only 18.5 isn’t ideal. Will try to boost the whole place by 1 degree and keep it there.
Posted by: @mikeflPosted by: @dunlorn@marvinator80 a less than optimum heat output combines with the house losing heat a little more rapidly to mean the system can just about keep the place comfortable. My only approach has been to keep the system running as 'low & slow' as I can for near 24/7 operation and to keep IAT pretty stable. Climbing back up the hill with low LWTs takes an age
Ditto here. I can just about keep the house at 19C, but the pain of getting a 1C increase from an overnight setback takes at least 3 hours of daytime, and never quite completes. I think I'll change my setbacks to be higher, and try to run 24/7 with a lower LWT, but that's a change for another day.
just back from a rare day at the office and checked the temps.
OAT 1.0
LWT 52!!!!
Return temp 47!!!
Energy use zero difference from yesterday. We shall see.
Now it’s at -2 and LWT hanging tough at 37. Big difference. The defrost cycle seems to be for 5 mins every 45 mins and that’s why it’s not getting back up there.
-3.5 outside now and indoor temps slowly rising, despite the defrost cycles every 45 mins.
Woke to 17.5 to 18.5 throughout the house. Low of -6 overnight.
have identified an issue though as the utility room was freezing and no feeling of warmth in the UFC despite blasting the whole night.
A hatch was cut under the tumble drier for cabling across to our garage/annex. There are HUGE gaps and loads of cold air coming in. Honestly about equal to having had a window open all night in -6.
now at Screwfix for foam.
- 26 Forums
- 2,618 Topics
- 61.1 K Posts
- 622 Online
- 6,994 Members
Join Us!
Worth Watching
Latest Posts
-
RE: Renewables & Heat Pumps in the News
An article on funding for heat pumps in case anyone is ...
By Jeff , 37 minutes ago
-
RE: Indevolt Batteries UK Support & Info Thread
Thanks @editor , @indevolt-uk Subject to any comments ...
By JamesPa , 9 hours ago
-
RE: Share Your Experiences with Heat Pump Manufacturer Support
@seoras Sorry to hear that. I found Vaillant very help...
By JamesPa , 9 hours ago
-
The Watchdog That Watched and Waited
On 9 January 2026, Consumer Energy Solutions collapsed ...
By Mars , 13 hours ago
-
RE: GSHP Kaput After 16 Years: New Compressor or Switch to ASHP? Advice Welcome
Cool Energy in Grimsby sell ground source heat pumps an...
By DerekDeLeon , 13 hours ago
-
RE: Valliant Heat Pump Settings
Thats arguably a sign of a good installer - they unders...
By JamesPa , 14 hours ago
-
RE: Electricity price predictions
Well, we have so many cases where rain water mixes with...
By Batpred , 15 hours ago
-
RE: Two heating zones to one zone
@profzarkov They arent obviously wrong, but the only...
By JamesPa , 17 hours ago
-
RE: Towns water feed to air source heat pump system
The DHW circuit cant be separated (well it could, you c...
By JamesPa , 17 hours ago
-
Solis AC-coupled 3kW storage inverter
Solis AC-coupled 3kW storage inverterPylontech batterie...
By MartinRobinson , 23 hours ago
-
RE: My NIBE ASHP Nightmare: No Commissioning, High Bills and a Hostile Installer
As @transparent has observed above, this is not bad, an...
By cathodeRay , 1 day ago
-
RE: The Grid Says Yes.. Until It Doesn’t: Why Britain's Net Zero Push is Stalling at the Plug Socket
As I was reading this article Mars, I was thinking that...
By Toodles , 2 days ago
-
RE: Tell us about your Solar (PV) setup
Installed in May 2011: 16*Sharp 245 W monocrystalline p...
By txmartyn , 2 days ago
-
-
RE: Say hello and introduce yourself
That doesn't sound 'right' to me. The national Smart ...
By Transparent , 3 days ago
-
RE: Growatt battery disconnected
I doubt this will happen, but I will try and suggest it...
By Eliuccio , 3 days ago
-
Understood. That's why I decided from the outset on a ...
By JamesPa , 3 days ago
-
RE: My experience with 3 heat pump surveys: Heat Geek, British Gas & Octopus
On the litigation, I would not go there and definitely ...
By Batpred , 3 days ago
-
RE: Recommended home battery inverters + regulatory matters - help requested
I suppose if your pv inverter packs up, you have a plan...
By Batpred , 4 days ago
-
RE: New Vaillant aroTherm Plus in black - When will it come to the UK?
Firstly check you are using sound power not sound press...
By JamesPa , 4 days ago
-
That’s the solar up and running, I don’t think it’s the...
By David999 , 4 days ago
-
RE: Seeking ideas / information / commiseration - Pure Drive
I agree with @colinc that you can reuse some of it. A s...
By Batpred , 4 days ago
-
RE: Solar Power Output – Let’s Compare Generation Figures
@toodles Im trying me best to ignore orangeman, I figur...
By Papahuhu , 5 days ago





