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11/05/2025 11:07 am  

@johnmo No one seems to disagree that the pricing structure is (to use Greg Jackson’s choice word) Bonkers! I think there are some very greedy bar stewards with interest in fossil fuels who would hate to see the gas price driven boat rocked and the rest of us are the worse off for it all. As I say, most everyone is of the same opinion over the bonkers pricing structure - but no-one of influence seems to wish risking raising their head above the parapet and grasping the nettle. Summat is rotten in the State of UK! Reluctantly, Toodles.

Toodles, he heats his home with cold draughts and cooks his food with magnets.


   
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11/05/2025 11:08 am  

So is agile the correct tariff to be on in the winter - why not just switch to a different more cost effective tariff? Paying 99p per kWh is ... Leave you full the blanks. Agile and battery may make sense, if you don't have a battery or just a small one, then just do a more stable tariff.

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11/05/2025 11:22 am  

The only way to get most this stuff - PV, heat pumps etc, is take away the MCS cost adder and do it yourself. Typically paying £6k for 6 panel system to allow export is just daft. A few months a year, if you do live at home during the day, you will export. Never get a pay back before the system dies of old age.

We at 22 PV panels, some bought new, some second hand, paid about £3500 in total. Have a battery also, actually paid full price install for that, because the maths worked out well on about 5 year payback period.

Our typical daily electricity cost at the moment is about 60 to 80p. That's with cooling running 24/7, all household electricity etc. I exported 1.8kWh yesterday, so if paid for it would have got under 30p. Would take a long time to get back the additional cost of an MCS PV installation.

Maxa i32V5 6kW ASHP (heat and cooling)
6.5kW PV
13.5kW GivEnergy AIO Battery.


   
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11/05/2025 11:35 am  

@johnmo I have been looking at the daily Agile rates for some months now (idle curiosity as I left Agile last July) and it seems to me that there have been very few days when enough HH’s are available where the price is even competitive with Cosy cheap 8 hours of the day. In possession of a battery is a requisite for this Cosy rate to win through I know but if one has the capacity, I feel Cosy is the better option. Those 8 hours (spread over the day) can outcompete the ‘iffyness’ of Agile under these circumstances I think.

I am trialling Intelligent Octopus Flux and will decide at the end of the month whether to stick or move back to Cosy - IOF may work for the sunnier warmer months but I shall review the situation in due course. I am a little concerned about resultant battery degradation though as 98% capacity being discharged down to 20% daily for approx. £2.50 - £3.00 allowing for the uplift on the export rate does not feel like a clincher to me. So far, the Octopus plan seems to want to charge my battery from the grid (@ ~23 pence per kWh and pay me ~29 pence per kWh for export between 16:00 and 19:00. For the other 21 hours of the day, the export rate is ~23 pence. per kWh - better than Cosy but is it battery thrashingly better? Quizzically yours, Toodles.

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