My ASHP Installation: Mitsubishi Ecodan 14kW
I had the electrician back out today to look at the immersion, as I had reported it coming on alongside the heat pump during regular heating of the hot water and underfloor/rads. He took one look at the meter, which shows a low reading in his eyes (well yes because it's been off more than because of various repairs, plus I only turned the heating on a few weeks ago!) and refused to do anything else. I have videos of the immersion coming on (lights flashing on the meter) alongside the heat pump when heating hot water and UF/rads but he refused to look at them or entertain the idea that Vaillant posited of putting the immersion on it's own spur. The Arotherm plus is more than capable of doing the legionella cycle on it's own due to the refrigerant used, as all there advertising says, but instead I am being forced to use the immersion and not have any control over it, or at the other times it is coming on too. It is so mild outside too. He did not look at any settings on the controller either.
@saz I am also concerned that my recent installation is using the immersion top heat up the water. My non ASHP electrical use has rocketed but I am only using 2 Kwh per day to heat a 250 litre tank.
I have turned off the immersion at the fuse box so I can see if its been eating up the electricity
@mikefitz Hi, and these systems shouldn't need to even use the immersion at this time of year I think? It's a good idea to do comparisons, that's what I intend to do. I'm so annoyed with the electrician and his attitude, extremely unhelpful to say the least. Total waste of time.
@saz, @mikefitz, I believe that some ASHPs have a setting that determines when the immersion heater kicks in. On another forum I read, someone said theirs was set to use the immersion whenever the flow temp exceeded 40 degrees. I've no idea if that's possible with your systems but it would be worth a look at the settings/manual.
"Standard" low temperature heat pumps are designed to be efficient up 45C. The immersion is there to get the temperature north of that, and to help with legionella cycles. Our HW is set to 44C. For most people that water feels very, very hot on the skin. Anything hotter than that will be start to feel uncomfortable so you'll turn the cold water on to offset this. As far as I know, most systems are set up for the immersion to kick in when the temperature requirement is over 45C (or maybe 50C). Up to that point, the heat pump should be heating it.
Buy a copy of the The Ultimate Guide to Heat Pumps
Subscribe and follow our Homeowners’ Q&A heat pump podcast
I’ve just re-read your installation post @kev-m (over the first couple of pages) and I have to say it went really well, and it’s worth reading for anyone considering a heat pump installation. How involved were you in the process?
Buy a copy of the The Ultimate Guide to Heat Pumps
Subscribe and follow our Homeowners’ Q&A heat pump podcast
- 26 Forums
- 2,208 Topics
- 48.7 K Posts
- 63 Online
- 5,868 Members
Join Us!
Podcast Picks
Latest Posts
-
@editor @mixergy This is now 4 weeks without a hot w...
By bontwoody , 29 minutes ago
-
RE: Renewables & Heat Pumps in the News
It rather depends on what we call 'local area' and 'tot...
By Transparent , 2 hours ago
-
RE: Mitsubishi Ecodan F8 error
Better than an early Windows/DOS error 'Faulty keyboard...
By JamesPa , 3 hours ago
-
I can now, I done an automation in Home Assist...
By DREI , 3 hours ago
-
RE: Bosch CS5800i 5kW - Experience So Far
What a difference a pump makes. We don't have OpenEne...
By Steelbadger , 3 hours ago
-
RE: Daikin 9kW to 8kW Swap Offer from Octopus
It's increasingly clear that there is frequently proble...
By JamesPa , 4 hours ago
-
RE: Inventor (Midea) Heat Pump short cycling advice
I installed the 80L tank (volumizer) things got better ...
By immunity , 7 hours ago
-
RE: Testing new controls/monitoring for Midea Clone ASHP
@papahuhu at the end of the day if you are happy with h...
By benson , 19 hours ago
-
RE: Can you recommend a Mitsubishi service engineer in the Rochdale area?
@dgclimatecontrol We'll all need annual servicing. How...
By Suzy-shadow , 19 hours ago
-
RE: Octopus tariffs - a quick comparison
Does indeed need checking, @tim441. Neither Homely ...
By Majordennisbloodnok , 20 hours ago
-
RE: How not to install a heat pump
Delighted to hear that the buffer has been replumbed as...
By JamesPa , 21 hours ago
-
-
Actually, there's a rather greater degree of cattle-her...
By Majordennisbloodnok , 23 hours ago
-
RE: The Hidden Secret to a Successful Heat Pump: Pipe Size Matters
@davidnolan22 So far as I can tell from the 'other p...
By JamesPa , 1 day ago
-
RE: 5 Star Service from Havenwise
I keep getting havenwise ads on my Facebook feed, so cl...
By benson , 1 day ago
-
Automation options to maximuse efficiency & ToU tariffs
I started a conversation with ChatGPT. What automation...
By Tim441 , 1 day ago
-
RE: 4 Year Ongoing Heat Pump Battle With Poor Heat Pump Installation
@jamespa Oh, I know some that are good and some not so....
By ASHP-BOBBA , 2 days ago
-
RE: Samsung Heat pump with Yonos Pico circulating pump running all the time
I don't know how many pumps you have but I guess it's o...
By JamesPa , 2 days ago
-
RE: Help me keep the faith with my air source heat pump installation
That's just human nature unfortunately, not special to ...
By JamesPa , 2 days ago