@derek-m I would assume it controls both, as there is little point running the ASHP and not the central heating pump and vice versa. The Nest will call for heat and turn on the central heating element of the ASHP which will then run in weather compensation mode.
I'll have to call the guy that put it in and ask him.
Hi Batalto,
The two pumps could actually operate independently, in that the pump located in the ASHP could run to heat up the water in the buffer store, and then the central heating pump could run, when the thermostat starts it, to move the warm water from the buffer store to the heat emitters.
Obviously, since the buffer store is relatively small in volume, both pumps would normally be operating at the same time.
I am not certain how your system is wired and configured, hence what may seem like stupid questions.
@kev-m, the problem is the hive, it is an expensive on-off switch. A TRV is useful to control the bedroom temperatures but must not be used anywhere else, all other radiators should have lock shields only. If you have 2 methods of controlling the room temperature, it is like having 2 bosses in an office, nothing gets done/heated correctly. (on-off thermostat, TRV, weather compensation, 3 bosses, you do not stand a chance)
Kev-n you are operating the system correctly, if all common radiators are open, the Mitsubishi thermostat communicates the internal temperature to the controller and automatically adjusts the weather compensation curve to maintain the set temperature.
Director at Heacol | Expert Heat Pump Consultant | Book a one-to-one consultation for pre- and post-installation advice, troubleshooting and system optimisation.
@kev-m You are probably getting reasonable performance then.
Director at Heacol | Expert Heat Pump Consultant | Book a one-to-one consultation for pre- and post-installation advice, troubleshooting and system optimisation.
Posted by: @heacol@kev-m, the problem is the hive, it is an expensive on-off switch. A TRV is useful to control the bedroom temperatures but must not be used anywhere else, all other radiators should have lock shields only. If you have 2 methods of controlling the room temperature, it is like having 2 bosses in an office, nothing gets done/heated correctly. (on-off thermostat, TRV, weather compensation, 3 bosses, you do not stand a chance)
Kev-n you are operating the system correctly, if all common radiators are open, the Mitsubishi thermostat communicates the internal temperature to the controller and automatically adjusts the weather compensation curve to maintain the set temperature.
@heacool
The instal of my ASHP plus 12 radiators is due soon. I thought I wanted ‘smart’ TRV’s on each. As it is the installer intends to use dial/number type TRV’s on each radiator. Am I correct in understanding you to say they are not required and, apart from bedrooms, should be turned right up to max, i.e. fully open and allow the main thermostat sole control?
Retrofitted 11.2kw Mitsubishi Ecodan to new radiators commissioned November 2021.
14 x 500w Monocrystalline solar panels.
2 ESS Smile G3 10.1 batteries.
ESS Smile G3 5kw inverter.
Posted by: @derek-mHi Batalto,
Having just watched the video accessed by the link you posted, I can now see why people's ASHP systems are not working at their optimum settings, if this is how they are being commissioned.
Can you repost the link please? I can’t find it.
Retrofitted 11.2kw Mitsubishi Ecodan to new radiators commissioned November 2021.
14 x 500w Monocrystalline solar panels.
2 ESS Smile G3 10.1 batteries.
ESS Smile G3 5kw inverter.
Hi Morgan,
Just find the statement from Batalto at the end of which is the word 'Link'. If you then click on Link it will take you to the youtube video.
Hi Morgan,
I hope that you have now found the video.
Perhaps I should specify why I made the comment about the video in the first place. My comment was to do with the fact that they were recommending a minimum water flow temperature, from the ASHP, of 37C when weather compensation is active. As Heacol has pointed out previously, the lower the water temperature, the more efficient the system will be. By limiting the lowest water temperature at 37C, would mean that even during Winter, the ASHP could be switching on and off, rather than running continuously at a lower temperature, which is more efficient.
- 26 Forums
- 2,136 Topics
- 46.8 K Posts
- 14 Online
- 5,662 Members
Join Us!
Podcast Picks
Latest Posts
-
Powerwall 3 or Myenergi or something else?
Bit of background, 4 bed house 7.35kw heat loss, gas di...
By AdamK , 7 hours ago
-
RE: Does anyone have experience of a smart water meter?
Thanks, @technogeek. So far as I can make out, whilst...
By Majordennisbloodnok , 10 hours ago
-
RE: Mitsubishi PAR-WT60R-E Wireless Controller installation
@morgan They have been paired once but it was thought b...
By DavidAlgarve , 12 hours ago
-
RE: Isolating the system for a planned power cut
A great many ground-mounted local substation transforme...
By Transparent , 12 hours ago
-
RE: Heat Pump Servicing & Maintenance – Good Value or Rip-Off?
Having bit the bullet and paid £250 for a service, our ...
By Old_Scientist , 1 day ago
-
@bontwoody me too. I've contacted Heat Geek today, and ...
By Mars , 2 days ago
-
New heat pump heating system underperforming in Italy... Advice needed!
hi all, first post! I've just renovated a house in sout...
By robinlawrie , 2 days ago
-
RE: Anyone still weathering it out with Agile?
I went to Agile when I had solar installed July last ye...
By NJT , 2 days ago
-
RE: Mitsu Wireless Controller and MelCloud
Well it has now become obvious that the installation of...
By DavidAlgarve , 3 days ago
-
RE: Say hello and introduce yourself
Whilst you're busy installing services (pipes and wires...
By Transparent , 4 days ago
-
RE: New Vaillant aroTherm Plus in black - When will it come to the UK?
@editor I know it was formally announced at Ish the oth...
By PatrickVito , 5 days ago
-
@moman0311 welcome to the forums. I've received your em...
By Mars , 5 days ago
-
RE: Thermostat for Ideal Logic Air with 3 zone support
No harm at all in plumbing it as 3 zones, I would have ...
By JamesPa , 6 days ago
-
RE: ASHP heat output monitoring
@carlo I see there is a discussion in Facebook user gro...
By Tim441 , 6 days ago
-
RE: Flexi-Orb Heat Pump Scheme: A Game-Changer for the UK's Heat Pump Industry
MCS have set a potential trap in the new version of MCS...
By JamesPa , 7 days ago
-
RE: Who has a V2G EV installation
General comment on battery care... I guess if ev is on ...
By Tim441 , 1 week ago
-
@old_scientist like for like comparisons are almost imp...
By Tim441 , 1 week ago
-
RE: Who's your electricity provider and what's your tariff?
@old_scientist There is an option in the Tesla app that...
By Toodles , 1 week ago
-
RE: Octopus Cosy & Octopus EV + bidirectional smart tariff, together. What, eh?
@old_scientist me too. Just installed my new heat pump ...
By Eliuccio , 1 week ago
-
RE: Is your heat pump insured?
Yup just spoke to Privilege to inform them of my impend...
By Scalextrix , 1 week ago