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(@michel54)
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Hi everyone,

Two years ago, I purchased a 14kW Ecodan air-to-water heat pump with R32 refrigerant.

Recently, I decided to install a Wi-Fi remote to monitor the temperature in my living room and control the heating more efficiently. However, after enabling the remote, I encountered an issue where the system displays an L9 error after a few hours, and the heat pump shuts down.

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Based on my research, this error seems to indicate a flow issue. I have already taken the following steps to resolve it:

  1. Cleaned the water filter: I ensured there was no debris or blockages in the system.
  2. Checked the water pressure: It is approximately 1.6 bars when the system is off, which seems to be within the acceptable range.
  3. Increased the pump speed: I set the pump speed to level 5 to rule out insufficient flow as the cause.

Unfortunately, none of these actions resolved the issue.

During my observations, I noticed something unusual: the circulatory pump does not start even when the room temperature is below the set temperature. The pump only starts if I manually trigger it through the heat pump settings. Once it starts, it operates normally, which suggests the pump itself is not faulty.

Additionally, I activated the feature to display the ambient temperature reading, and the values seem accurate. This makes it even more puzzling why the circulatory pump fails to start automatically.

At this point, I am left without heating and am unsure how to proceed.

Does anyone have any insights into the cause of the L9 error or potential solutions to this issue?

Thank you in advance for your help!

 

 


   
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Welcome to the forums and sorry to hear of your issues. So, your heating comes on, as displayed on your control panel, but your circulation pump doesn’t start automatically. Is that correct?

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(@michel54)
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@editor Yes, indeed, that’s what’s happening. Because of that, I suspect the liquid inside the heat pump gets too hot, which triggers the L9 error.


   
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 Gary
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As you state L9 is flow rate error, if you go to the service menu when the heat pump is running and then go into running information and put in code 540 it will tell you the flow rate in L/min.  This has to be above 5L/min for the error not to show and a 14kw Ecodan should be running at 25L/min to transfer all the heat it can produce.


   
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(@michel54)
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Hi @gary ,I tried to put code 540 to get the flow reading and the machine is giving me a flow of zero. It seems logical because the pump doesn't start. Do you have any clue why that is the case?


   
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So many questions.

but if you’re having to manually activate the circulator it sounds like it’s not set up properly. 

your language setting is set to French. Is that ok for you? 

With the Mitsubishi system your circulator pump is the only pump that moves any water. There is no internal circulation pump inside the heat pump itself. In normal operation the circulator starts first before any heating takes place and this is fully automated when set up properly.

If you can give a full description of everything you’ve got installed including emitters and house size you will get the best advice on this forum. 

my initial questions

Do you have the Mitsubishi pre plumbed cylinder? If not you probably can’t control circulator speed via the ftc controller. You will need to change speed on the circulator itself (push button)

What filter did you clean? There’s a metal deposits filter and there should also be a wire gauze strainer somewhere?

Who designed /installed it all? They may advise on how it’s set up.

I hope this helps so that this group can help you further…

 

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@michel54, we had a similar issue recently that triggered an error (we don’t have an Ecodan), which turned out to be caused by a seized circulation pump. Since it couldn’t circulate water, it resulted in a flow error.

However, in your case, it sounds like the pump is working and circulating water when switched on manually. When you run it manually, are you still experiencing flow errors?

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Posted by: @michel54

Recently, I decided to install a Wi-Fi remote to monitor the temperature in my living room and control the heating more efficiently

Did you use the Mitsubishi PAR-WT50R and if so after connecting the cable to the FTC,  did you also set the appropriate dip switch in the FTC to on - I think it is SW1-8?

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Hi everyone thank you for your answers.

This is a picture of my setup,

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I have done all the plumbing myself. This is the diagram that i followed :

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My flat is around 100 square meters and it is normal if it is in french because I live near Paris.

I used the PAR-WT60R-E with the associated PAR-WR61R-E, and i didn't forgot to put the switch SW1-8 on the on position.

I'm unable to tell you if by enable the pump manually I still get the flow error because by doing so just the pump starts and there is no heating.

Finally the filter that I cleaned looks like that and i was pretty cleaned. Like i didn't saw any suspicious things

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@michel54, I reached out to our contact at Mitsubishi UK, and they’ve suggested getting in touch with Mitsubishi France, as they’ll have their own support systems in place, and before any fault-finding work can begin on the circulation pump outputs, there will likely need to be clarification regarding the wiring and the dip switch settings, specifically SW1-8 and SW2-1.

Have you contacted Mitsubishi support in France?

 

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@michel54 

hi Michel. The L9 fault is specific to a problem with the flow rate registered by your flow meter.

If the flow rate drops below the usual minimum (which is 5 litres per minute) then the L9 error is reported and your heat pump will be shut down.

I also said in an earlier message you may have more than one filter fitted and both may need to be cleaned out.

you have since sent a picture of your equipment schematic.

I can see you have a Mitsubishi Hidrobox which is a pre-plumbed cylinder and pre assembled system. You will have a Y-strainer built in to this box located at the back. This is where all the limescale, rust flakes and radiator scum will collect and if you haven’t emptied it in the past 2 years you will probably have a problem with it being choked up and stopping the flow of your heating system.

please let me know if you can locate this component and if it can be isolated or sealed and then the filter chamber opened.

IMPORTANT - did you put rust inhibitor chemical in the water when you filled up the heating system? I ask just to be 100% sure.

I attached a picture of how it looks on your assembled hydro box. Make sure you shut the taps before you try to unscrew the filter nut…. That’s very important.

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you will get a load of bits that look like this inside the mesh filter.

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Or even bigger bits like this.

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Michel, its important to reply so we can be sure you have been helped. Thanks in advance.

And Merry Christmas….

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(@michel54)
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Hi @sunandair,

Over the last few days, I decided to contact a professional to take a look at my heating installation to see if they could resolve the issue.

They ended up cleaning the same filter you had mentioned earlier (I wasn’t aware it existed), and it was indeed full of rust!

Previously, I had a mix of aluminum and iron heaters in my system. After noticing that the iron ones were rusting, I replaced them with aluminum ones and cleaned the filter I sent earlier, thinking it was the only one.

Now, my heating system has been running the entire night without any errors, so I believe the problem is resolved. However, I wanted to wait a bit longer before posting to confirm it’s fully fixed.

Additionally, my system had : 

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, but it seems it didn’t prevent rust as expected. I’m quite disappointed in its effectiveness.

Thank you all for your help, and Merry Christmas!

 


   
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