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(@madbilly)
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Hi everyone,

I just need a sanity check please. I've heard/read (IIRC) a few times recently people talking about "condensing" heat pumps, like condensing boilers. Now, I know that ASHPs have condensors, they condense the water vapour out of the air and release the latent heat of evaporation in it, which is then transferred to the water (if I've understood correctly). But, is there something else specifically called a "condensing heat pump"? If not, and what I understand to be a normal ASHP is the only real condensing heat pump, then is there such a thing as a non-condensing ASHP?

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I'm certainly not an expert and therefore not best placed to give a definitive answer, but I've never personally heard of a condensing heat pump in the sense of a home-heating unit. As you say, a heat pump will contain a condenser and may produce condensate as a byproduct of the way it works, but that's not what you're asking.

One thing that might be worth mentioning, though, is that an air source heat pump is not trying to release the heat from the moisture content in the air; merely heat from the air in its entirety. As other threads on this forum have mentioned before, a heat pump will actually work at its most efficient when dealing with dry air, hence why they can work with surprisingly good efficiency in very cold countries like the Nordics.

In contrast, heat pumps do also exist in condensing tumble driers and in that situation condensation is precisely what they want to achieve, whilst at the same time recirculating the recovered heat back into the drum to maximise energy efficiency. If I were pushed to suggest (and it's only a guess) what someone might mean by "condensing heat pump", I'd point somewhere like there and guess it might be to describe a heat pump where the focus is on water removal rather than heat transfer. All in the context.

I may, of course, be talking complete rubbish. I have done so plenty of times in the past and I'm sure I'll continue for some time to come.

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(@jamespa)
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Same here as above.  Where have you seen this terminology?

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