Forums

Forums
Sustainable Sidetra...
Electricity, Tariff...
Lower electric tari...
 
Notifications
Clear all

Lower electric tariffs for heat pump users

 
Page 1 / 3
Electricity, Tariffs, Monitoring & Providers
Last Post by Lucia 9 months ago
30 Posts
11 Users
8 Reactions
2,034 Views
RSS
 GutoFfowc
(@gutoffowc)
Eminent Member Member
197 kWhs
Joined: 2 years ago
Posts: 10
Topic starter 09/07/2024 9:53 am  

Should heat pump users have  a lower tariff for electricity that is used by a heat pump?

How could that be estimated/measured?

Is it worth a petition to the new government to give incentive to heat pump?


   
Quote
 Gary
(@gary)
Honorable Member Member
2790 kWhs
Joined: 2 years ago
Posts: 326
09/07/2024 10:42 am  

That is down to individual energy suppliers and some already do, Octopus have their Cosy tariff, Ovo have heat pump plus to name two.


   
ReplyQuote
Abernyte
 Abernyte
(@abernyte)
Honorable Member Member
4251 kWhs
Joined: 2 years ago
Posts: 222
09/07/2024 10:46 am  

Perhaps they might concentrate on delivering a working smart meter system first.


   
ReplyQuote
 Old_Scientist
(@old_scientist)
Reputable Member Member
913 kWhs
Joined: 9 months ago
Posts: 131
10/07/2024 12:17 am  

British Gas are also offering at 14p/kWh tariff for the first year for heat pump usage:

https://www.centrica.com/media-centre/news/2024/british-gas-launches-uk-s-lowest-heat-pump-rate-to-drive-take-up/

Presumably they have a separate billing meter for the ASHP.


   
ReplyQuote
 GunboatDiplomat
(@gunboatdiplomat)
Estimable Member Member
1061 kWhs
Joined: 11 months ago
Posts: 40
10/07/2024 9:22 am  

Looks like the BG one only applies for the first year - so potentially a shock if you don't then find an alternative tariff!


   
👍
1
ReplyQuote
Toodles
 Toodles
(@toodles)
Famed Member Contributor
11435 kWhs
Veteran
Joined: 2 years ago
Posts: 1852
10/07/2024 1:10 pm  

@gunboatdiplomat Perhaps Gregg Jackson should wade in and sort them out! 😉 Toodles.

Toodles, he heats his home with cold draughts and cooks his food with magnets.


   
ReplyQuote



Majordennisbloodnok
 Majordennisbloodnok
(@majordennisbloodnok)
Noble Member Moderator
7327 kWhs
Joined: 3 years ago
Posts: 749
10/07/2024 2:01 pm  

Posted by: @gunboatdiplomat
↑

Looks like the BG one only applies for the first year - so potentially a shock if you don't then find an alternative tariff!

It's not like BG to use sneaky broadband contract-style tactics like that is it? 🤥 

 

105 m2 bungalow in South East England
Mitsubishi Ecodan 8.5 kW air source heat pump
18 x 360W solar panels
1 x 6 kW GroWatt battery and SPH5000 inverter
1 x Myenergi Zappi
1 x VW ID3
Raised beds for home-grown veg and chickens for eggs

"Semper in excretia; suus solum profundum variat"


   
ReplyQuote
 Lucia
(@lucia)
Honorable Member Member
1766 kWhs
Joined: 9 months ago
Posts: 276
10/07/2024 2:17 pm  

Posted by: @gutoffowc
↑

Should heat pump users have  a lower tariff for electricity that is used by a heat pump?

How could that be estimated/measured?

Is it worth a petition to the new government to give incentive to heat pump?

No, they shouldn't.

Tariffs need to be redesigned to reduce the weighting on electricity and the politically motivated skewing that 'favours' gas tariffs.  Standing charges should be split into consumption bands for different levels of use - as most of Europe already has. 

If you have a specific 'heat pump tariff' you will be letting the government/energy companies off the hook for the rest of our tariff nonsense. 

This post was modified 9 months ago by Lucia

   
👍
2
ReplyQuote
 Johnmo
(@johnmo)
Prominent Member Member
2312 kWhs
Joined: 2 years ago
Posts: 424
10/07/2024 2:31 pm  

Posted by: @gutoffowc
↑

Should heat pump users have  a lower tariff for electricity that is used by a heat pump?

Why should we. A well setup Heat pump should be on parity cost wise with a gas boiler, could be cheaper. If you have solar and/or almost always cheaper.

Plenty of TOU tariffs available if you have a smart meter or E7 if you don't.

Maxa i32V5 6kW ASHP (heat and cooling)
6.5kW PV
13.5kW GivEnergy AIO Battery.


   
👍
1
ReplyQuote
 JamesPa
(@jamespa)
Famed Member Moderator
11370 kWhs
Veteran
Joined: 2 years ago
Posts: 2151
10/07/2024 2:37 pm  

Posted by: @lucia
↑

Posted by: @gutoffowc
↑

Should heat pump users have  a lower tariff for electricity that is used by a heat pump?

How could that be estimated/measured?

Is it worth a petition to the new government to give incentive to heat pump?

No, they shouldn't.

Tariffs need to be redesigned to reduce the weighting on electricity and the politically motivated skewing that 'favours' gas tariffs.  Standing charges should be split into consumption bands for different levels of use - as most of Europe already has. 

If you have a specific 'heat pump tariff' you will be letting the government/energy companies off the hook for the rest of our tariff nonsense. 

By 'heat pump tariff' do you mean a tariff specifically for the energy used by your heat pump (lie OVO offer) or something like Octopus Cosy which is actually a ToU tariff for grid balancing and applied to all your electricity consumption, but marketed for and designed in a way to be suitable for heat pumps.

I am guessing its the first of these that you object to not the second?

BTW I very much agree about removal of the skewing in favour of gas prices.

This post was modified 9 months ago 5 times by JamesPa

4kW peak of solar PV since 2011; EV and a 1930s house which has been partially renovated to improve its efficiency. 7kW Vaillant heat pump.


   
ReplyQuote
Toodles
 Toodles
(@toodles)
Famed Member Contributor
11435 kWhs
Veteran
Joined: 2 years ago
Posts: 1852
10/07/2024 2:41 pm  

@johnmo Or to put it another way: Why are we being charged a levy that subsidises the use of fossil fuel derived gas, for using cleaner / clean  electricity? If we are being ‘taxed’ in this way, it is not going to encourage anyone to go green. Carts and Horses. Regards, Toodles.

Toodles, he heats his home with cold draughts and cooks his food with magnets.


   
👍
1
ReplyQuote
 Lucia
(@lucia)
Honorable Member Member
1766 kWhs
Joined: 9 months ago
Posts: 276
10/07/2024 2:44 pm  

@jamespa I'm assuming he means a tariff specifically and uniquely offered for heat pumps - the heat pump itself would be metered. That's what I'm responding to.


   
ReplyQuote



Page 1 / 3
Forum Jump:
  Previous Topic
Next Topic  
Share:

Join Us!

Heat Pump Dramas?

Thinking about installing a heat pump but unsure where to start? Already have one but it’s not performing as expected? Or are you locked in a frustrating dispute with an installer or manufacturer? We’re here to help.

✅ Pre-Installation Planning
✅ Post-Installation Troubleshooting
✅ Performance Optimisation
✅ Complaint Support (Manufacturer & Installer)

👉 Book a one-to-one consultation now.

Latest Posts

x Powerful Protection for WordPress, from Shield Security
This Site Is Protected By
Shield Security →