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(@gutoffowc)
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Should heat pump users have  a lower tariff for electricity that is used by a heat pump?

How could that be estimated/measured?

Is it worth a petition to the new government to give incentive to heat pump?


   
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 Gary
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That is down to individual energy suppliers and some already do, Octopus have their Cosy tariff, Ovo have heat pump plus to name two.


   
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Abernyte
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Perhaps they might concentrate on delivering a working smart meter system first.


   
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British Gas are also offering at 14p/kWh tariff for the first year for heat pump usage:

https://www.centrica.com/media-centre/news/2024/british-gas-launches-uk-s-lowest-heat-pump-rate-to-drive-take-up/

Presumably they have a separate billing meter for the ASHP.

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(@gunboatdiplomat)
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Looks like the BG one only applies for the first year - so potentially a shock if you don't then find an alternative tariff!


   
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@gunboatdiplomat Perhaps Gregg Jackson should wade in and sort them out! 😉 Toodles.

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Posted by: @gunboatdiplomat

Looks like the BG one only applies for the first year - so potentially a shock if you don't then find an alternative tariff!

It's not like BG to use sneaky broadband contract-style tactics like that is it? 🤥 

 

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Posted by: @gutoffowc

Should heat pump users have  a lower tariff for electricity that is used by a heat pump?

How could that be estimated/measured?

Is it worth a petition to the new government to give incentive to heat pump?

No, they shouldn't.

Tariffs need to be redesigned to reduce the weighting on electricity and the politically motivated skewing that 'favours' gas tariffs.  Standing charges should be split into consumption bands for different levels of use - as most of Europe already has. 

If you have a specific 'heat pump tariff' you will be letting the government/energy companies off the hook for the rest of our tariff nonsense. 

This post was modified 9 months ago by Lucia

   
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Posted by: @gutoffowc

Should heat pump users have  a lower tariff for electricity that is used by a heat pump?

Why should we. A well setup Heat pump should be on parity cost wise with a gas boiler, could be cheaper. If you have solar and/or almost always cheaper.

Plenty of TOU tariffs available if you have a smart meter or E7 if you don't.

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Posted by: @lucia

Posted by: @gutoffowc

Should heat pump users have  a lower tariff for electricity that is used by a heat pump?

How could that be estimated/measured?

Is it worth a petition to the new government to give incentive to heat pump?

No, they shouldn't.

Tariffs need to be redesigned to reduce the weighting on electricity and the politically motivated skewing that 'favours' gas tariffs.  Standing charges should be split into consumption bands for different levels of use - as most of Europe already has. 

If you have a specific 'heat pump tariff' you will be letting the government/energy companies off the hook for the rest of our tariff nonsense. 

By 'heat pump tariff' do you mean a tariff specifically for the energy used by your heat pump (lie OVO offer) or something like Octopus Cosy which is actually a ToU tariff for grid balancing and applied to all your electricity consumption, but marketed for and designed in a way to be suitable for heat pumps.

I am guessing its the first of these that you object to not the second?

BTW I very much agree about removal of the skewing in favour of gas prices.

This post was modified 9 months ago 5 times by JamesPa

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@johnmo Or to put it another way: Why are we being charged a levy that subsidises the use of fossil fuel derived gas, for using cleaner / clean  electricity? If we are being ‘taxed’ in this way, it is not going to encourage anyone to go green. Carts and Horses. Regards, Toodles.

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(@lucia)
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@jamespa I'm assuming he means a tariff specifically and uniquely offered for heat pumps - the heat pump itself would be metered. That's what I'm responding to.


   
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