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What is the best approach for primaries in heat pump installations?

 
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 AdamK
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Topic starter 17/03/2025 11:02 am   [#2202]

Was speaking to my builder this morning and he was saying about putting the primaries in the cavity when he rebuilds a rear wall, think hes trying to eliminate the need for trunking/insulation on the rear of the house. Im not sure about this as although there will be fibre glass insulation in the wall and themalite type block work internally im not sure it would be as good as using the zero loss insulation and trunking?



   
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17/03/2025 5:54 pm  

Personally I would want them inside the heated envelope if possible.  Then the heat loss is useful during the heating season.  Obviously its a bit situation dependent.  Inside the cavity (preferably near the inner leaf) is, I guess, better than outside!


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 Judith
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18/03/2025 9:49 pm  

Posted by: @adamk
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…….. block work internally im not sure it would be as good as using the zero loss insulation and trunking?

Don't forget there is no such thing as zero loss insulation and trunking! So inside the envelope is best everything else looses some heat to the external world rather than heat the house.

Don’t let your builder run the primary pipes in the space between the insulation and the external wall, it’s nearly as bad as running them uninsulated outside! Under the insulation in specially carved channels is not too bad

 


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