Posted by: @editor

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I occasionally get Morgan's robot scenario when using Safari, but never when on Chrome.

I think that level of security is called parental controls.

It's like my mother used to say "Never trust a man with an old Mac" 🙄 

@transparent I’m a 76 year young old man with 10 Macs., iMacs, iPads, iPhones and an Apple Watch altogether in our house, I don’t stand a chance of a login do I? 😉

Posted by: @editor

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It seems that Firefox and Chrome are also more "robust" and dare I say it "trustworthy".

Chrome is far from trustworthy. Just look at some of the stunts Google have pulled with it and some they are accused of still pulling. It just has a sufficiently big market share that no-one wants to upset that many clueless users at once and have to deal with the support requests.

And the same just now in Safari on iPad!  Earlier was on Firefox windows desktop.

It's now doing it every time I visit the site.  Tedious.

@morgan sorry Morgan. This will be connected to the cookies on your device(s).

@editor Any idea how I deal with that?

@editor Strangely enough…. I can login, read and comment on the forum, go away for a while then comeback; at such times, I may or may not be asked to login again. I cannot determine if there is a default time before I am required to login again or not; when I do login again, I can ignore the request about proving I am a human and still login again without a problem. iPad using Safari browser. Regards, Toodles.

@toodles the default period, if you ticked "remember me" is 14 days. I too am getting occasionally booted by Safari on iPad and Macbook, but no issues on either device using Chrome. I looked into it, and it's a cookie issue that sometimes occurs and requires flushing all cookies, which is a hassle, so I switched browers.

@editor I try to ‘tick’ that box, however, it does not respond however many times I tap it (I assume an X or a tick or a shading should occur to change the appearance of the box, but it remains … well just an outline of a square) The login goes ahead and Robert is your father’s brother. Regards, Toodles.

Posted by: @editor

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You've touched on interesting point though. It seems that Firefox and Chrome are also more "robust" and dare I say it "trustworthy".

Personally I wouldn't dare.

Both Firefox and Chrome are open source software, so trustworthy in the sense that everyone can see how it works and therefore has it under plenty of public scrutiny. That makes them both fairly robust for the same reason. However, Chrome in particular is then "enriched" with what Google wants to add into it so that it be provided as "Google Chrome". Similarly, it's "enriched" in a slightly different way by Microsoft to deliver it as "Microsoft Edge". As a result, the extent to which any of these browsers are actually trustworthy depends on the business model of the company providing them to you.

Google makes its money from selling insights into people's activity (and the advertising revenue that follows on from that) i.e. analysing their personal data. No matter what they tell you about Chrome's privacy safeguards, you can't forget that and the more accurate message is that you can trust Google Chrome to safeguard anyone else's ability to compete with Google for your data.

Apple makes its money from hardware and app store licencing. No doubt Apple want to know all they can about you but that information flow ends there. That allows Apple to keep Safari slightly simpler since it has fewer nefarious activities to perform and so it is just as robust as the competition in terms of application stability. In terms of security features, they are both on a par and that holds true for how they implement that security.

Bottom line is that all the browsers mentioned are broadly the same in complying with Internet standards, all are broadly the same in terms of robustness and all are broadly the same in terms of ability for a web site to "trust" them. There are BIG differences in their trustworthiness in the sense of personal privacy, and a user has the choice of being scrutinised by Apple or being scrutinised by anyone willing to pay Google for the privilege. Firefox is better in that respect but doesn't have the market share to pressure web developers to fix issues that only appear in that browser.

None of this will affect the issue at hand with logging into this web site.

Mars,

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