Posted by: @transparent

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h, we're both right about how the ASHP would be supported from a Sunsynk inverter, but we've made different initial assumptions

Hi @transparent , that's all good then. Yes, I'm not changing wiring or adding a backup power distribution board (having recently done a major refurbishment) and we're in a city, all power distribution is underground and power cuts rare and short.

This is the diagram approved by the DNO (no surprises where I got the original, thank you 🙂) - I was stymied by not being able to PM you for the OpenDraw file without first posting. 

I would happily send you ODT files of my diagrams for you to dissect and amend.

The more graphics we have on this forum, the easier it is for others to understand.

You will note that I keep a graphics library of 200+ PNG/JPEG images from which I can quickly build an appropriate diagram.
It's not as slick as I'd like, but at least the software is free...
... and therefore anyone else can replicate the style.

You will occasionally find my graphics on other 'official' sites and in government leaflets.
Provided that no one is trying to gain an income by their use, then that's fine by me.

Posted by: @s_gatorator

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@bontwoody , thank you. I'm looking to do a similar off-peak storage (ASHP, but no Solar PV) and was interested to compare your figures with my calculations. Could I just check? - your December off-peak usage is 550kWh, presumably this supports about 150kWh of charging your 5kWh battery once every day (assuming the PV is not charging it) - does that mean your normal off-peak December consumption is 400kWh (i.e. 400/756 = 52%)? 

Yes thats right, although I dont totally use all my battery capacity and its closer to 4.5 kWh charging rather than 5kWh per night

I think what Im seeing is that depending on the cost of the battery and usage, its doesnt aways make financial sense to try and cover 100% of your daily usage for all days of the year. That said extending my current battery pack is quite expensive at £2500 for an extra 5kWh and the calculation will alter with something like the Fogstar 15.5 kWh battery at a similar price.

hope thats helpful

So just for completeness here is may last update on this topic regarding the cost effectiveness of adding another 5kWh to my battery module.

Between September and March the additional 5kWh battery would have saved about £105. Given I was quoted £2500 to install one it would not make financial sense to do so.

Switching from Octopus Intelligent Go to Cosy would only have saved a small amount in December and January, the rest of the time it would have been more expensive.

Overall throughout the period I paid an average of 11p per kWh.

@bontwoody I am just looking into adding another 6.5 kWh battery to our system. We were on Octopus Cosy after we installed the heat pump towards end of January, and I see that we have nearly cycled 2.5 to 3 times each day for the battery. I switched to Octopus Go towards the middle of April, and now we cycle about 0.5 times a day. We have had a fantastic April with respect to solar production that has topped up the battery and taken care of base load plus HP usage. Even otherwise, I would assume staying on the Go tariff would reduce cycling than Cosy I would assume.

We have a decent solar array, but due to trees and neighbouring houses, in the winter we don't produce enough to top up the battery enough during the day. Even though we hardly touched the grid during the peak times and paid only 14 pence on average per kWh we imported on Cosy, I wonder whether adding another battery to the system would prolong the life of the battery. Not sure how BMS works and whether they deplete one battery fully before using the other, or would it equally distribute the load. If it's the latter, I assume we might not cycle so much during peak winter and could problong the battery life by 5 years.

This would also mean the EV charging would be on cheaper Octopus Go than slightly more expensive Octopus Cosy during the peak winter months. Maybe, I am being overoptimistic, 

@chandykris We seem to have similarly sized systems and yes I found Go to be a better choice than cosy with a couple of minor months difference.

I really cant make the financial case for adding another battery though, even though I agree it should prolong the life of the battery system. I have set mine so that I dont get to zero or 100% so Im hoping that will help me. As to whether it depletes one battery first I cant honestly say but others will no doubt know the answer @transparent ?