Volumisers in Heat Pump Systems: Does Placement Matter?
Posted by: @AnonymousNot sure if you have the defrost cycle and what happens correct. The heat pump reverses the refrigeration cycle not the heating water. The circulation pump runs as normal. Hot and cold refrigerator gases swop roles at the condenser only. So instead of being in heat mode it moves to cooling mode.
So cold water from defrost does not enter the return it enters the flow side. But a big volume of water on the flow side will allow some mixing and less very cold water will hit the radiator. Just slightly cooled water.
@johnmo are you commenting on @editor s opening post? If it is then I guess you’re commenting on this part of it;
”If the Volumiser is on the Return Side:
-
- Cold water from defrost flows directly into the return pipe, which is already at a lower temperature during heating mode.
-
- This cold water mixes with the cooler return water, further reducing the temperature entering the radiators.
- Result: Radiators can receive a sudden influx of colder water, causing potential cooling and discomfort.”
The first bullet point is incorrect as you say @johnmo.
interpretation: What actually happens in the context of this article is the defrost water leaves the heat pump in a chilled state and continues to flow along The Primary Flow Pipe straight into the emitter circuit (ie the secondary flow pipe). This means it passes through all the emitters absorbing heat from the emitters instead of adding heat. The defrost water then enters the volumiser on the return side. Mixing with the existing warmer return water. So this is described as not good… because it has passed through all the emitters in its chilled state. It only mixes with the volume of return water in the volumiser after it has robbed the emitters of some of their heat.
By placing the volumiser on the Flow side the chilled water first mixes with the higher flow temperature store in the volumiser. Before it enters the emitter circuit.
it might be that @editor has already edited this part of the article but I haven’t seen the final copy.
Of course, this is just one view of the intended document. 🤓
You’re absolutely right that during defrost the refrigeration cycle reverses, not the flow and return pipes. And yes, the cold water produced by defrost enters the flow side of the system… that’s exactly the point I was building toward.
The key issue here is how that cold water interacts with the heating circuit. If there’s no thermal buffer (in this case, a volumiser) on the flow, then that cold slug heads straight into the emitters. Because flow temps are typically what the radiators “see,” this can cause an immediate and noticeable drop in radiator surface temperatures, reducing comfort for the occupants, even if only briefly.
When a volumiser is installed on the return, it does nothing to moderate this cold influx. It simply adds volume at the cooler end of the system, where flow and return temperatures are already much closer together. In contrast, when the volumiser is installed on the flow, it stores water that is several degrees warmer than the return (typically at the current flow temperature) and this warmer mass helps temper the defrost water before it reaches the emitters.
This placement mitigates the thermal shock and helps maintain comfort during and after defrost cycles. Temperature is a valuable commodity in low-temperature systems like heat pumps, and conserving that energy (especially during transitional events) is key to performance and efficiency.
So yes, volumisers can technically go on the flow or return, but in practice, only the flow-side position delivers that buffering effect where it matters, before the emitters. That’s the core of my argument.
I’ve reread my post and my wording isn’t clear so I’ll update it now.
Get a copy of The Ultimate Guide to Heat Pumps
Subscribe and follow our Homeowners’ Q&A heat pump podcast
- 26 Forums
- 2,271 Topics
- 50.8 K Posts
- 157 Online
- 5,933 Members
Join Us!
Podcast Picks
Latest Posts
-
RE: Testing new controls/monitoring for Midea Clone ASHP
I am doing almost the same as you and also noticed that...
By Mosibi , 1 hour ago
-
With the expanded view you can see it ticking along at ...
By JamesPa , 1 hour ago
-
RE: Grant 13kW Aerona3 - issues getting zones to temp
Thanks will do. Don’t expect a huge uplift in ...
By Crimson , 2 hours ago
-
RE: My DIY Heat Pump installation
This is very kind. However software is not really my ...
By Polar bear , 4 hours ago
-
RE: Request for feedback on where we're at with our quest to get an ASHP or ideas.
thanks, heatpunk looks great, being able to do the calc...
By giryan , 16 hours ago
-
RE: Is Your House Warmer Upstairs Than Downstairs?
Why arent you expecting them to make much difference. ...
By JamesPa , 16 hours ago
-
RE: Oil Boiler & Heat Pump Hybrid System
@paultheheating I wonder if you are being a bit pessimi...
By GrahamF , 16 hours ago
-
@toodles sounds good. I started with cosy but then plug...
By Eliuccio , 17 hours ago
-
RE: Aira Heat Pump: Stylish Scandinavian Heating
It has been just over a year since we changed over to a...
By npru , 19 hours ago
-
RE: Finding a Thermostatic Shower Valve That Works with Heat Pump Systems
@morgan I should just have written ‘Mea Culpa’ shouldn’...
By Toodles , 21 hours ago
-
RE: Are We Sleepwalking Into Another Race to the Bottom?
'We learn from history that we do not learn from histor...
By Lawrence Leask FInstR , 21 hours ago
-
Mitsubishi Ecodan FTC7 Legionella date set
I can set the number of days between Legionella cycles ...
By DRB01 , 1 day ago
-
RE: When to use Octopus Intelligent Go tariff with my heat pump and battery
@treewizard Yes, I like the extra facilities that NetZe...
By Toodles , 1 day ago
-
RE: Help me keep the faith with my air source heat pump installation
@adamk downstairs rads are less prone to airlocks, you ...
By AgentGeorge , 1 day ago
-
RE: My Octopus Cosy 6 Heat Pump Journey: From Quote to Completion
@editor thanks for highlighting my name. Yes I did get ...
By Chansug , 2 days ago
-
RE: balancing radiators with a mixture of different size pipework and a few undersize rads.
@editor Thanks for your input Mars. No I think the comm...
By baxtDave , 2 days ago
-
RE: Rate the quality of your heat pump design and installation
We’re looking to expand our list of recommended list of...
By Mars , 2 days ago
-
RE: RDSAP10 effect on existing heat pump EPC rating?
@transparent Along with the right workers, they can’t b...
By Toodles , 2 days ago
-
RE: Midea ASHP – how to set weather compensation
I have just looked at my heat pump 'long interval' (27 ...
By cathodeRay , 2 days ago


