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RE: Do setbacks save energy without compromising comfort?

@kev-m - I think you may be onto something, an average hiding detail. Here's a zoom in on three defrosts over a two hour period on a recent cold morni...

2 years ago
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RE: Do setbacks save energy without compromising comfort?

I have not taken it as a personal attack on me, instead I am trying emphatically to say that constantly pointing out the obvious increases the noise a...

2 years ago
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RE: Do setbacks save energy without compromising comfort?

@jamespa - interesting. The confidence interval overlap is indeed very small, and may or may not disappear with larger sample sizes. At the moment the...

2 years ago
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RE: Do setbacks save energy without compromising comfort?

I do of course by and large agree, much (but definitely not all, by a long shot) is relevant, because it turns out that to answer the original questio...

2 years ago
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RE: Do setbacks save energy without compromising comfort?

I agree, and every now and then I as the thread starter try to remind folks what this thread is actually meant to be about (eg an hour or so ago I wro...

2 years ago
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RE: Do setbacks save energy without compromising comfort?

@ The string 'defrost' does not appear to exist in the Midea Engineering Data manual. I have plotted the 'norm' power outputs over the range of OATs...

2 years ago
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RE: Do setbacks save energy without compromising comfort?

At the moment, it seems to me there is not enough second thoughts going on, and instead there is a lot of noise repeating stuff we already know - in s...

2 years ago
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RE: Do setbacks save energy without compromising comfort?

As I thought, but that is the least accessible place, and invasive approaches are not an option.

2 years ago
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RE: Do setbacks save energy without compromising comfort?

DT might actually be the harder one, depending on how and where you measure it (and bearing in mind I have a PHE). The flow rate has two things that m...

2 years ago
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RE: Do setbacks save energy without compromising comfort?

If this is correct, then this is compressorgate! Seriously, though, I thought the engineering data was supposed to include the effects of defrost cycl...

2 years ago
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RE: Do setbacks save energy without compromising comfort?

Yes, on the left hand side it peaks at just under 8kWh (which is 8kW over that hour, unless I've totally lost the plot). Clearly this is much closer t...

2 years ago
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RE: Do setbacks save energy without compromising comfort?

This chart shows the heat pump not quite meeting demand on the left hand side where the OAT is around zero, leaving the IAT below design IAT (19 degre...

2 years ago
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