Heat pump monitoring
Do you want to know more about heat pump monitoring? This thread will be dedicated to discussing all platforms and answering general questions about heat pumps.
To get the ball rolling, in our latest Homeowners’ Q&A episode, we dive into how tracking your heat pump’s performance can help you save energy and cut costs. We’ve gathered insights from the industry’s top monitoring solutions – HeatPumpMonitor, Homely, Planet Devices, Adia & Havenwise – to break down everything you need to know.
Buy Bodge Buster – Homeowner Air Source Heat Pump Installation Guide: https://amzn.to/3NVndlU
From Zero to Heat Pump Hero: https://amzn.to/4bWkPFb
Subscribe and follow our Homeowners’ Q&A heat pump podcast
@lucia thank you. It took a while organise because there were so many parties, but monitoring (in my opinion) is key to ensuring systems are truly efficient because we all have a part to play in cutting energy consumption, especially in home heating.
Buy Bodge Buster – Homeowner Air Source Heat Pump Installation Guide: https://amzn.to/3NVndlU
From Zero to Heat Pump Hero: https://amzn.to/4bWkPFb
Subscribe and follow our Homeowners’ Q&A heat pump podcast
@editor I just watched it! The Planet Devices guy nailed it - there's so much data that HP companies obscure and it shouldn't be like that. It should be for owners to decide whether to geek out or not. Massive credit to Tristan and crew because they set the ball rolling on transparency and accuracy.
That was a good and useful programme thank you. I learned a bit there. 🙂
@morgan which link? YouTube?
Buy Bodge Buster – Homeowner Air Source Heat Pump Installation Guide: https://amzn.to/3NVndlU
From Zero to Heat Pump Hero: https://amzn.to/4bWkPFb
Subscribe and follow our Homeowners’ Q&A heat pump podcast
Some of us heat pump owners have been moaning about data obfuscation for years, and more importantly, finding ways of getting at the data.
Unsurprisingly, heat pumps do tend to collect a lot of data. They have to, as part of their control systems. You can't, for example, have weather compensation without knowing the outside air temperature, or at least an approximation to it. You can't control the LWT (leaving water temperature, flow temperature) if you don't know what the LWT is. And so on. And data is valuable, so they collect it, and send it back to the manufacturer's servers. The data is there alright, it's yours, because it comes from your heat pump, the question is how to get it.
The DIY answer for many, if not most, heat pumps is through a modbus connection. It's a fair bet if your heat pump is Homely compatible, it will have a modbus connection, because that is what Homely uses. If you are inclined to geekiness, and can twiddle a screwdriver, all that data is within your reach. Here is some data from my heat pump for the last 24 hours. It is running in always on (no setback) mode, under weather compensation. The big spike yesterday is the DHW heating. The heat pump is cycling, but it is low frequency, around twice an hour, nothing to worry about, it seems to be part of Midea's modulation strategy:
How I did this is in part described in this thread, in part because I have yet to complete the full write up (about 2/3 done so far).
It should also be borne in mind that monitoring a heat pump this way (over modbus) means you are reliant on the manufacturer's data, which may or may not have been cooked before being served, so to speak. Independent monitoring kits get round this, but the are expensive and usually invasive, in that you have to invade the system to install some of the sensors. As it happens, I have an independent external heat pump only kWh meter that allows me to manually confirm the kWh input (the Midea volts x amps data under-estimates is by about 18%), and I also have an analogue flow meter in the primary circuit, and that confirms the Midea reported flow rate (used with other variables to calculate energy out) is reasonably accurate. Both of these meters were put in place during the original installation, something to bear in mind if you are thinking of installing a heat pump, and are inclined towards DIY monitoring.
Midea 14kW (for now...) ASHP heating both building and DHW

+1 for @cathoderay.
Well worth bearing in mind that the modbus connection can be used in a selection of ways. @cathoderay's preference is bespoke coding which gives absolute flexibility and control. I happen to use modbus to let Home Assistant capture the data (for my inverter, not my heat pump) which trades some of the flexibility and control for what I find to be more user friendly. Others may well dislike Home Assistant's take and prefer to use modbus to connect a different system. Eventually that modbus connection is simply an enabler for whatever solution you decide on to connect locally and capture that raw data, so don't be put off by the "DIY" label @cathoderay uses; once you've got that one bit sorted (the two-wire connection and the modbus conversation on top of it) you can crunch the data in whatever way you find easiest and most comfortable.
105 m2 bungalow in South East England
Mitsubishi Ecodan 8.5 kW air source heat pump
18 x 360W solar panels
1 x 6 kW GroWatt battery and SPH5000 inverter
1 x Myenergi Zappi
1 x VW ID3
Raised beds for home-grown veg and chickens for eggs
"Semper in excretia; suus solum profundum variat"
@majordennisbloodnok - very much agree, think of the modbus connection (which is simple and easy to do, hence the mention of DIY!) as an enabler - it enables you to connect to the heat pump however you wish, to both read data from and and write data to it. The 'write data to' takes it to another level, you can control the heat pumps as well. For example, I have a simple auto-adjust script that adjusts the LWT when there is a discrepancy between the desired indoor air temperature and the actual indoor air temperature.
Midea 14kW (for now...) ASHP heating both building and DHW
@editor Yes but it has reappeared now.
Retrofitted 11.2kw Mitsubishi Ecodan to new radiators commissioned November 2021.
14 x 500w Monocrystalline solar panels.
2 ESS Smile G3 10.1 batteries.
ESS Smile G3 5kw inverter.
@editor And whereas everyone (I’m sure) would be keen to have their system running as efficiently and economically as possible, not everyone has the time, interest, enthusiasm, knowledge or patience to set the equipment up. Having smart controllers that ‘micromanage’ these tasks is the way to go - whilst also ensuring that all ‘on/off’ controllers are removed from systems and the market place - for the good of all! Regards, Toodles.
Toodles, he heats his home with cold draughts and cooks his food with magnets.

Posted by: @toodles@editor And whereas everyone (I’m sure) would be keen to have their system running as efficiently and economically as possible, not everyone has the time, interest, enthusiasm, knowledge or patience to set the equipment up. Having smart controllers that ‘micromanage’ these tasks is the way to go - whilst also ensuring that all ‘on/off’ controllers are removed from systems and the market place - for the good of all! Regards, Toodles.
I'm not sure I'd go quite so far as to say they're THE way to go, but I'd happily agree with A way to go. Another the video hinted at was the possibility of some form of remote management by the installer company and, whilst I can't see too many of them viewing that as a cost-effective use of their time I can see the dawn of something like AI doing it for them, not a million miles away from the Havenwise solution but with the installers being the customer instead of the home owners. Is that a smart controller or pro-active tweaking by a conscientious installer? Blurs the line, I suspect.
Largely irrelevant, though, since your main point is, of course, that not everyone wants to tinker but most want best efficiency and effectiveness. Definitely agree there.
105 m2 bungalow in South East England
Mitsubishi Ecodan 8.5 kW air source heat pump
18 x 360W solar panels
1 x 6 kW GroWatt battery and SPH5000 inverter
1 x Myenergi Zappi
1 x VW ID3
Raised beds for home-grown veg and chickens for eggs
"Semper in excretia; suus solum profundum variat"
-
alternative to Homely - HavenWise. Anyone used it?
1 month ago
-
Midea ASHP Install & Potential Changes
1 year ago
- 21 Forums
- 1,962 Topics
- 42.6 K Posts
- 60 Online
- 2,275 Members
Join Us!
Heat Pump Dramas?
Thinking about installing a heat pump but unsure where to start? Already have one but it’s not performing as expected? Or are you locked in a frustrating dispute with an installer or manufacturer? We’re here to help.
✅ Pre-Installation Planning
✅ Post-Installation Troubleshooting
✅ Performance Optimisation
✅ Complaint Support (Manufacturer & Installer)
Latest Posts
-
RE: Towel rails. An unexpected final hurdle
We have both Normal Rad for heating the room and then a...
By IRMartini , 28 minutes ago
-
RE: Newbie out of her depth – Samsung AE120RXYDEG 12kW heat pump
@majordennisbloodnok Absolutely! You only have to look...
By BAMi , 35 minutes ago
-
RE: Heat Pump Sizing & Installation Costs
Perhaps useful to have installed date too? To get conte...
By Tim441 , 3 hours ago
-
RE: What is the best strategy for operating a very oversized heat pump?
Something else... that works for some people... LG ha...
By Tim441 , 3 hours ago
-
RE: Setback savings - fact or fiction?
@cathoderay I see you are continuing to misquote from t...
By SUNandAIR , 4 hours ago
-
RE: Samsung Gen 7 R290 12kW is not behaving how I expected
So I turned my thermostats down last night And w...
By Joshua , 4 hours ago
-
RE: SolarPV tables / online calculator
I'd be interested what others find whilst using that we...
By Majordennisbloodnok , 5 hours ago
-
Volumisers in Heat Pump Systems: Does Placement Matter?
The debate over buffer tanks in heat pump systems has b...
By Mars , 6 hours ago
-
RE: F.788 Building circuit pump reports internal fault - Vaillant Arotherm
Guess I have to wait for engineer visit. I really hope ...
By jeegnesh , 17 hours ago
-
RE: Act now to defer the UK road tax increase on EVs
@majordennisbloodnok Damn right sir. my attempt at iron...
By Jancold , 19 hours ago
-
RE: ASHP and heating issues in new build house
That’s good gives you more capacity. It made me think, ...
By Terry1812 , 21 hours ago
-
RE: Seewet manhole cover within r290 exclusion zone
Thanks! I asked Vaillant, and they say I should be fi...
By dbrb2 , 23 hours ago
-
Looking for the Grant Aerona 3 setting to turn off completely at 20 OAT
I'm running my Aerona 3 on WC and the 'warm end of that...
By damonc , 1 day ago
-
RE: Do I just go with the lowest quote for my heat pump?
So after signing in Sept in two weeks the install may s...
By Jancold , 1 day ago
-
RE: Victorian Semi Retrofit / Extension ASHP and UFH Advice
When you are renovating is always a good time, as it ma...
By JamesPa , 1 day ago
-
RE: Just one room not reaching desired temperature
Looks like this issue is now resolved. Aira installed a...
By ChandyKris , 1 day ago
-
There have been several people on the OpenEnergyMonitor...
By RobS , 2 days ago
-
RE: Say hello and introduce yourself
Good point @jamespa But that probably strengthens @ch...
By Transparent , 2 days ago
-
RE: Visit a Heat Pump sessions.
Congratulations @toodles, that's a fantastic result. We...
By Old_Scientist , 2 days ago
Latest Topics
-
Heat Pump Sizing & Installation Costs
By Mars 5 hours ago
-
Volumisers in Heat Pump Systems: Does Placement Matter?
By Mars 6 hours ago
-
SolarPV tables / online calculator
By MichelleC 13 hours ago
-
By Toodles 2 days ago