Double heat pump for DHW?
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Posted by: @ianmk13I would imagine that that the availability of 4-phase ASHPs (compared to their single-phase siblings) may be a relevant consideration
It certainly would @ianmk13
There would appear to be an excess of phases to the tune of +1 🤗
Contrary to what we in UK might imagine, 3-phase heat pumps are plentiful.
The majority of domestic heat pumps being installed in mainland Europe are now three-phase.
Here, we can expect an installer to be specifying a 3-phase ASHP for 11kW and above.
But mainstream manufacturers like Samsung will happily supply a 3-phase 8kW unit if an installer chooses one (Model No. AE080RXYDGGEU)
As for those with storage batteries, there's no reason why an existing battery couldn't have the inverter(s) changed to provide 3-phase.
Although dedicated 3-phase inverters are available,
most 1ph inverters that can operate 'in parallel' are quite capable of being divided across the phases.
My existing Growatt SPF5000ES units offer that functionality,
as do the Sunsynk 5kW ECCO inverters which I will shortly be installing.
Inverters in parallel all use the same common battery, whether they are connected to single or three-phase mains input.
Save energy... recycle electrons!
Posted by: @transparentPosted by: @ianmk13I would imagine that that the availability of 4-phase ASHPs (compared to their single-phase siblings) may be a relevant consideration
It certainly would @ianmk13
There would appear to be an excess of phases to the tune of +1 🤗
Sorry. Fat fingers 🤣
Posted by: @transparentAs for those with storage batteries, there's no reason why an existing battery couldn't have the inverter(s) changed to provide 3-phase
Not so with my GivEnergy All-In-One, unfortunately ☹️
Posted by: @ianmk13Not so with my GivEnergy All-In-One
That's a tricky issue, and one which I expect to see being raised many times this year (2025) as consumers begin to realise what GivEnergy's strategy means for them.
Have a look at what I posted as a synopsis of that strategy here on another topic.
It's a well respected company, and they've taken a hard-nosed decision to concentrate on the new iteration of their All-in-One system.
They will gain a lot of customers in the UK who 'just want a storage battery' and aren't going to spend much time researching the subject.
Most of them will be very satisfied with what they've had installed, and remain largely unaware of its constraints.
Save energy... recycle electrons!
Posted by: @transparentIt's a well respected company, and they've taken a hard-nosed decision to concentrate on the new iteration of their All-in-One system.
Yes, that's another ball-ache coming so soon after my purchase of what will quickly become an obsolete system. In order to expand the storage capacity I will either have to add a further All-In-One, which includes another inverter (which will require DNO approval) or and a totally separate 'conventional' battery and inverter system (again, requiring DNO approval). That said, I will probably need additional inverter capacity for resiliance in any event once I install a heat pump - my present 6kW will be insufficient for 'whole home backup'.
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