Homely Smart Controller

Homely Smart Controller

Being somewhat of a nerd when it comes to renewable energy, I was very keen to ensure that our newly installed heat pump not only kept us warm but also ran as efficiently and effortlessly as possible.

For these reasons, when we had our Daikin EDLA08 8kW monobloc air source heat pump installed, I was eager to have a smart controller. I believed it would further enhance the efficiency of the heat pump, without the fuss or faff.

At the time of installation, the Homely team informed me they were working on the integration for my pump, but that it would take a few months before a suitable controller became available.

In November 2023, our installer arrived with a package consisting of the Homely controller, a ‘node’ (a small rectangular case containing a temperature probe, battery, and other sensing electronics) that communicates with the controller via Zigbee, various connectors, two 13-amp plug-type PSUs for powering the system, a terminating resistor for the network connection, and a D.Comm unit for communicating between Homely and Daikin.

The installation was straightforward for the installer, involving two connections (P1 and P2) into the back of the Daikin MMI controller panel and some wiring into the D.Comm unit. The terminating resistor was fitted, and configuring the myriad of dip switches on the D.Comm completed the setup.

Homely required the Daikin MMI controls to be reset to a default state before powering up Homely and allowing it to ‘do its thing.’ During this time, the unit communicates with the heat pump and sets a range of parameters as a starting point. This setup takes about 20 minutes, after which Homely begins monitoring the system and communicating with the node, which is recommended to be placed in a living or relaxing area.

The Homely smart controller then tweaks the heat pump system’s parameters to optimise performance and continues to ‘learn’ the system for a week or more. It improves factors like flow and return temperatures, the time it takes for the room to warm or cool, and it even accounts for weather forecasts, air temperature changes, and solar gain.

Of course, there’s an app (available for iOS and Android via WiFi and internet), allowing users to set up their heating and hot water schedules for individual days. The app also accommodates Time of Use (TOU) tariffs, letting Homely calculate the best times to run the pump to take advantage of lower electricity rates. You can configure preferences for temperature stability, allowing Homely to adjust the system to maximise efficiency and minimise overall energy bills. It’s like micro-managing your heat pump’s operation without having to do so manually.

My Homely smart controller has been in use for a year now and has worked extremely well. There were a few minor teething problems in the early days (I believe mine was the first Daikin pump of this type with a secondary pump fitted with a Homely controller), but the Homely Technical Support team were friendly, helpful, and quick to resolve all the issues I raised.

The performance of the heat pump has been excellent, providing all the warmth we need, with Homely at the helm, ensuring this comfort is delivered economically.

Our registered installer has access to EverGreen Energy’s Connect app, which allows them to monitor the system’s performance parameters. Unfortunately, this app isn’t available to end users unless they are registered installers with EverGreen Energy, who produce the Homely Smart Controller. I’m hopeful this will change, allowing more savvy users to access and monitor their system’s performance.

Overall, I’m confident leaving Homely to do its job, but I can’t help checking the app’s controls occasionally—just like I enjoy keeping an eye on my solar PV production! 

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Potatoman
475 kWhs
3 months ago

Hi Toodles, only had my Homely a few days, could you tell me how to alter the user parameters in the Homely, eg if you want to change electticity tariff etc

Potatoman
475 kWhs
Reply to  Toodles
3 months ago

@Toodles Thats great ,thanks

Clive
Clive
3 months ago

Shame that Homely isn’t available for Nibe.

Mars
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25293 kWhs
Reply to  Clive
3 months ago

@clive, I’m surprised too, but they are trying to roll it out on more and more brands, so it may just be a matter of time. Homely will be on our podcast this Friday, so I’ll ask about NIBE plans.

IanMK13
2892 kWhs
Reply to  Mars
3 months ago

 Considering the performance of Vaillant units on HeatPumpMonitor.org, I’d have thought Homely should be looking to support those, too.

Mike H
1827 kWhs
3 months ago


Homely will be on our podcast this Friday, so I’ll ask about NIBE plans.

One thing that I would like to know is whether Homely can control the way that LWT changes when the heat pump starts up. Does it just tell the ASHP that the target LWT is ‘X’ and leave the ASHP to achieve that value? Or does it control the compressor speed (directly or indirectly) so that the target LWT is achieved in the most efficient way. For example, I have noticed that on some days, when the instantaneous COP settles to around 4.5 once in a steady state, the start up period can vary considerably. On some days, the COP will drop down below 2.0 before recovering and on other days it won’t go below 4.0. I have found that running it in quiet mode for the first 20 minutes and then switching to normal mode makes the start up period much more efficient. I am considering having Homely installed, but would like it to make my start ups more efficient. This is because I use setbacks during the day and at night.
Having experimented with different target LWTs, I believe that it would be possible to automate more efficient start ups using modbus. I suspect that Homely could do this much better than I could, but I am not sure if they do it routinely or would agree to do it if not. Perhaps you could ask them?

Majordennisbloodnok
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7077 kWhs
3 months ago

@IanMK13, Vaillant and Mitsubishi are two obvious examples of manufacturers who provide add-on modules for people wanting RS485/modbus connectivity. Since Homely is designed around a local wired connection – I believe RS485 – that would mean an extra complication during the installation. Purely a guess on my part but it wouldn’t surprise me if Homely were concentrating on other manufacturers that are easier to service and leaving Vaillant and Mitsi for the moment. I could be wrong, of course, but I wouldn’t blame them….

Mars
Admin
25293 kWhs
3 months ago

I need to take notes… loads of questions materialising here. 😀 

Starkers
148 kWhs
Reply to  Toodles
3 months ago


And here’s another one then Mars! Might Homely consider making the Dashboard available as part of the app please? The information it provides is very helpful and is enabling users to make intelligent decisions about their heating regimes and their DHW implementation and planning (as starkers has mentioned). On top of all the useful functions, it provides good material for improving bragging rights and will enable users of Homely smart controls to bore all their friends with the advantages!😉. Regards, Toodles.

 
Wholeheartedly agree! While I get the point that Homely might not want to expose customers to too much information and their secret sauce takes care of the weather compensation, it still leaves a good few open questions for people who want to further optimise. Maybe hide it under an ‘advanced info’ tab or something to keep up the ‘set and forget’ mindset for the majority of users. 
 

Frits
122 kWhs
Reply to  Toodles
3 months ago

Hello Toodles,
I am from the Netherlands and have been reading your messages about the Homely for some time. This is because I have a Midea heat pump. Is it also possible for me to buy a Homely? I hope you can help me. Greetings Frits

Mars
Admin
25293 kWhs
Reply to  Frits
3 months ago

Welcome to the forums @Frits. Yes, Homely supports Midea, but I don’t know if they sell to The Netherlands. I’ll find out.

Frits
122 kWhs
Reply to  Mars
3 months ago

If you would like to do that for me, I would be very happy.
I have already tried to contact Homely by email, but they have not yet responded.

Mars
Admin
25293 kWhs
Reply to  Frits
3 months ago

@Frits, I spoke with Homely, and it’s not available in the Netherlands just yet. If you’re trying to reach them, the best email to use is team@homelyenergy.com – that’s the address they’ve recommended for contact.

Frits
122 kWhs
Reply to  Mars
3 months ago

Thanks for the effort. I will send an email to them and wait for their response. Greetings

Frits
122 kWhs
Reply to  Frits
3 months ago

Hello, Unfortunately, they haven’t answered my email yet. I hope they continue to do this. You say that the Homely is not yet available in the Netherlands, that is correct, but they could still send 1 set. greetings

Frits
122 kWhs
Reply to  Mars
3 months ago

Hello, Unfortunately, they haven’t answered my email yet. I hope they continue to do this. You say that the Homely is not yet available in the Netherlands, that is correct, but they could still send 1 set. greetings

Majordennisbloodnok
Editor
7077 kWhs
3 months ago

Please bear in mind, @Frits, that @Toodles doesn’t work for Homely; he’s just built up a good relationship with them.

Welcome to the forum, btw.

Frits
122 kWhs
Reply to  Majordennisbloodnok
3 months ago

@Majordennisbloodnok Thank you. I already had that idea.

Stevensrp
24 kWhs
1 month ago

I have/had a Homely hub installed with my ASHP worse thing I’ve ever encountered TBH only supports a single zone (and they may/may not be looking at 2 zones sometime in the future) unless of course you want someone else to control your heating/hot water!
having listened in to a conversation between my installer and Homely it was obvious that the “customer" (me) was low priority now looking for a control system that actually does what I want.
Honest opinion not worth it right now.

Damon
51 kWhs
6 days ago

how can I find an installer? I can’t see any register of them, has anyone got experiences of Homely and Grant Aerona ASHPs

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