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                        <title>RE: Why Millions of UK Homes Struggle With Heat Pumps</title>
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                        <pubDate>Wed, 17 Dec 2025 15:03:31 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[There&#039;s many homes that would be quite a disruption for, looks good in photos and sounds good (and is, we&#039;ve used them) but old skirting takes some removal and if an older prop then the char...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There's many homes that would be quite a disruption for, looks good in photos and sounds good (and is, we've used them) but old skirting takes some removal and if an older prop then the character goes.  I've found fan coils have often been a better and simpler install, rads are recyclable at scrap yards, we just took 23 with a weight of 680kg for ££. Fan coils are slightly more than an equivalent rad but only around 25% of the cost.   All options should be considered though, as one item does not always fit all.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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                        <title>RE: Why Millions of UK Homes Struggle With Heat Pumps</title>
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                        <pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2025 17:35:21 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[If it is combined with the BUS and they make it all good, it could be a way to replace tired skirting.. 
The dream would be if someone like Octopus would take care of it...
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<p>When DiscreteHeat analysed years of their own heat-loss data, they found something surprising: “Over 80% of existing radiators were within about 30% of the required output for low-temperature systems,” Wadsworth told us. “Once we saw that, it became clear that full-scale radiator replacement is often unnecessary. We don’t need to tear out what’s there, we just need to supplement it.”</p>
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<p>...</p>
<p>In practice, 2-4 metres of discreet aluminium skirting typically supplies the missing wattage.</p>
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<p>It won’t remove the need for proper heat-loss calculations, nor does it eliminate the need for thoughtful system design. But it does offer something we believe is increasingly essential: a practical, efficient and homeowner-friendly pathway to low-temperature heating.</p>
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<p>If it is combined with the BUS and they make it all good, it could be a way to replace tired skirting.. </p>
<p>The dream would be if someone like Octopus would take care of it...</p>
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                        <title>RE: Why Millions of UK Homes Struggle With Heat Pumps</title>
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                        <pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2025 17:29:31 +0000</pubDate>
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My guess is that the people that you had coming over are building the evidence pack, right? &#x1f609;]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@drei </p>
<p>My guess is that the people that you had coming over are building the evidence pack, right? &#x1f609; </p>]]></content:encoded>
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                        <title>RE: Why Millions of UK Homes Struggle With Heat Pumps</title>
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                        <pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2025 16:37:31 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[Your situation is unacceptable (imho) and your house doesn’t meet building regs. Have you told your builder you want it fixed on his snagging list or have they gone bust and can you get it f...]]></description>
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<p>Another issue is the insulation of British Homes by the builders. Some cut corners to save money, because there is no penalty, nor will a new buyer start tearing furniture and drilling into the walls.</p>
<p>Our property is a new build, but the cavity wall insulation is lacking. I had someone come over to check it, and they put a camera in different locations, I could see huge gaps. In addition, behind every covered surface, such as furniture etc, there are gaps where cold air is coming through when it is windy outside. Not only that, but cold air comes through the different extractor fans exhausts. So our house has so many cold air entry points, it is crazy, then add the window trickle vents and you have 0 air tightness.</p>
<p>I was quoted £4000 to remove the old insulation, and £5500 to add the new one.</p>
<p>The only way forward, is to actually build houses with Heat Pumps in mind, in the first place, including underfloor heating.</p>
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<p>Your situation is unacceptable (imho) and your house doesn’t meet building regs. Have you told your builder you want it fixed on his snagging list or have they gone bust and can you get it fixed on the NFHB(?) guarantee?</p>
<p>Clearly you house hasn’t got the air-tightness barriers fitted well either!</p>
<p>It’s not a heat pump issue but a building industry one</p>
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                        <title>RE: Why Millions of UK Homes Struggle With Heat Pumps</title>
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                        <pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2025 13:23:17 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[Yes, I was just talking to a heatpump manufacturer, so much excitement about details on efficiency, buffer tanks, etc, multi zone. Even after explaining that we wanted as little disruption a...]]></description>
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<p>Bigger rad is less labour, less connections, less upheaval, and less money.</p>
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<p>Yes, I was just talking to a heatpump manufacturer, so much excitement about details on efficiency, buffer tanks, etc, multi zone. Even after explaining that we wanted as little disruption as poss., it took a couple of iterations to settle. </p>
<p>We just want something simple. No probs to have a rad replaced for a larger one or double layer. Like that, there's less chance that anything breaking needs to be fixed. </p>
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                        <title>RE: Why Millions of UK Homes Struggle With Heat Pumps</title>
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                        <pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2025 12:09:08 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[Another issue is the insulation of British Homes by the builders. Some cut corners to save money, because there is no penalty, nor will a new buyer start tearing furniture and drilling into ...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[Another issue is the insulation of British Homes by the builders. Some cut corners to save money, because there is no penalty, nor will a new buyer start tearing furniture and drilling into the walls.

Our property is a new build, but the cavity wall insulation is lacking. I had someone come over to check it, and they put a camera in different locations, I could see huge gaps. In addition, behind every covered surface, such as furniture etc, there are gaps where cold air is coming through when it is windy outside. Not only that, but cold air comes through the different extractor fans exhausts. So our house has so many cold air entry points, it is crazy, then add the window trickle vents and you have 0 air tightness.

I was quoted £4000 to remove the old insulation, and £5500 to add the new one.

The only way forward, is to actually build houses with Heat Pumps in mind, in the first place, including underfloor heating.]]></content:encoded>
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                        <title>RE: Why Millions of UK Homes Struggle With Heat Pumps</title>
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                        <pubDate>Sun, 23 Nov 2025 14:37:16 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[The idea (and at least one similar product) has been around for a while, I even considered it for one awkward room when I did my upgrade a year ago.
However the output per linear metre simp...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The idea (and at least one similar product) has been around for a while, I even considered it for one awkward room when I did my upgrade a year ago.</p>
However the output per linear metre simply didn't add enough in my case unless I went all around the room which wasn't realistically possible due to doorways.  I suspect such practical problems will frustrate it's use in many cases and as @dtard says larger rads are cheap and easy to install.  However the more options the better, with 20m houses to do in in the UK alone even a tiny percentage may be a worthwhile market.]]></content:encoded>
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                        <title>RE: Why Millions of UK Homes Struggle With Heat Pumps</title>
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                        <pubDate>Sun, 23 Nov 2025 13:35:49 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[Super niche. Bigger rad is less labour, less connections, less upheaval,  and less money.]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[Super niche. Bigger rad is less labour, less connections, less upheaval,  and less money.]]></content:encoded>
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                        <pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2025 18:06:25 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[A few weeks ago, I was having a discussion with someone about better (more effective?) operation of energy-hungry resources and, in particular, the possibility of making use of the heat gene...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A few weeks ago, I was having a discussion with someone about better (more effective?) operation of energy-hungry resources and, in particular, the possibility of making use of the heat generated from datacentres - possibly for community heating. The problem there, of course, was how to get the heat from a big old datacentre out in the middle of nowhere to a conurbation that'd want it. Then, a couple of days ago, I read a news article about a company installing small datacentre units (chest freezer-sized) in people's sheds/homes with the view of reducing the homeowners' heating bills. It seems the people the journalists were talking with saw their monthly heating bills drop from around £375 to about £40. Obviously, this is still relatively experimental but is a wonderful example of innovation turning things on their head; if we can't move Mohammed to the mountain, how about a bit of Pyrenees-shifting rock by rock?</p>
<p>This Add2rad concept seems to be another example of a bit of lateral thinking to solve a problem by chopping it into smaller chunks. The recently-discussed Heat Geek "zero disrupt" approach alongside their standard approach is certainly an attempt to break the deadlock but the choice feels like a binary "ideal and expensive" vs "cheap with compromises" whereas the idea of supplementing the existing radiators looks at first glance as a combination of minimising both disruption and compromise.</p>
<p>Despite the very public criticising of heat pumps (legitimate and not), the technology is now mainstream in the public's eyes - even the public that choose to reject it. As a result, these innovations are now what I would regard as second generation and I'm quite excited to see what I'm sure will be a number of others following on.</p>
<p>Oh, and it seems to me that the Thermaskirt product could represent a relatively low cost way for homeowners who've been shafted by cowboys underspeccing radiators to get a practical fix.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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                        <pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2025 08:33:31 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[One of those brilliant ideas that is obvious with hindsight.  &#x1f60e;]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One of those brilliant ideas that is obvious with hindsight.  &#x1f60e; </p>]]></content:encoded>
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