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                        <title>RE: Totally bewildered with my ECO4 heat pump installation</title>
                        <link>https://renewableheatinghub.co.uk/forums/renewable-heating-air-source-heap-pumps-ashps/totally-bewildered/paged/14/#post-42664</link>
                        <pubDate>Wed, 19 Feb 2025 20:20:15 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[No advice here I&#039;m afraid, only solidarity as I&#039;m in a very similar situation. I hope yours gets sorted.]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No advice here I'm afraid, only solidarity as I'm in a very similar situation. I hope yours gets sorted.</p>]]></content:encoded>
						                            <category domain="https://renewableheatinghub.co.uk/forums/renewable-heating-air-source-heap-pumps-ashps/">Air Source Heat Pumps (ASHPs)</category>                        <dc:creator>Powysperson</dc:creator>
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                        <title>RE: Totally bewildered with my ECO4 heat pump installation</title>
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                        <pubDate>Tue, 18 Feb 2025 16:46:31 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[@jaynieq I’m glad I helped (even if only a bit!). I am amazed that you still have your oil boiler I thought they had to be physically removed. Our gas boiler was removed by an opportunist sc...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@jaynieq I’m glad I helped (even if only a bit!). I am amazed that you still have your oil boiler I thought they had to be physically removed. Our gas boiler was removed by an opportunist scrap merchant the following day! <br />So sell it! Particularly before someone helps themselves or it goes rusty if outside. Consider it a help towards your bills. Our boiler was only good for parts because it was faulty and 15years old but 2 years must be worth something and whoever buys it would have bought a different oil boiler anyway.</p>
<p>A young member of the family might be good at on-line sales?</p>]]></content:encoded>
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                        <title>RE: Totally bewildered with my ECO4 heat pump installation</title>
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                        <pubDate>Tue, 18 Feb 2025 09:20:00 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[@cathoderay Indeed you do need to look at the overall figure over time. At present, our pump has a COP below 3 and we are consuming an average of ~2kWh for about 18 hours each day with a dro...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[@cathoderay Indeed you do need to look at the overall figure over time. At present, our pump has a COP below 3 and we are consuming an average of ~2kWh for about 18 hours each day with a drop for about 6 hours. On Cosy, that amounts to ~£35 or so a week for us. Glad to hear the system is settling down and that you are now comfortable JaynieQ. Please feel free to enquire further - your success is our satisfaction! Regards, Toodles.]]></content:encoded>
						                            <category domain="https://renewableheatinghub.co.uk/forums/renewable-heating-air-source-heap-pumps-ashps/">Air Source Heat Pumps (ASHPs)</category>                        <dc:creator>Toodles</dc:creator>
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                        <title>RE: Totally bewildered with my ECO4 heat pump installation</title>
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                        <pubDate>Tue, 18 Feb 2025 09:01:29 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[@jaynieq Thanks for the feedback, its always good to hear what happens as it helps us do better next time.
You may find you need to fine-tune the weather compensation settings as time goes ...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@jaynieq Thanks for the feedback, its always good to hear what happens as it helps us do better next time.</p>
<p>You may find you need to fine-tune the weather compensation settings as time goes on.  If I recall correctly you have a Vaillant which has preset curves, so this shouldn't be necessary,  but its <em>just</em> possible you find you need change the curve a tiny bit from midwinter to spring.  You will soon work it out, the key thing is not to fiddle constantly and for the most part leave it to do its thing. </p>
<p>For what its worth the night time set back <em>may</em> be costing money (counterintuitive I know).  The way Vaillant does setback this it less likely than the way some do set back, but it may well be that you could run 24*7 at a lower flow temperature still without it.  It wont make much difference either way so if its more comfortable with setback my advice is leave it on.</p>
<p>If you have any further questions please ask.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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                        <title>RE: Totally bewildered with my ECO4 heat pump installation</title>
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                        <pubDate>Tue, 18 Feb 2025 08:58:36 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[Good news, well done!
it is indeed very important to average costs over a season. Heat pump running costs are disproportionately high in cold weather because of the double whammy of more en...]]></description>
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<p>The house has warmed up considerably! The electricity usage is still making our eyes water a bit but when we average it out, it’s probably costing what oil plus firewood would have cost. So… we are much warmer and not so scared!</p>
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<p>Good news, well done!</p>
<p>it is indeed very important to average costs over a season. Heat pump running costs are disproportionately high in cold weather because of the double whammy of more energy needed just as performance (COP) drops significantly, but equally the running costs become disproportionately low in moderate to mild weather when the energy demand falls and performance (COP) increases. Neither looking at a cold month nor indeed a mild month will give you an accurate picture of overall running costs, you have to look at the whole season.</p>]]></content:encoded>
						                            <category domain="https://renewableheatinghub.co.uk/forums/renewable-heating-air-source-heap-pumps-ashps/">Air Source Heat Pumps (ASHPs)</category>                        <dc:creator>cathodeRay</dc:creator>
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                        <title>RE: Totally bewildered with my ECO4 heat pump installation</title>
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                        <pubDate>Tue, 18 Feb 2025 08:11:41 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[Hello again
Finally, some good news to report…
Radbots disabled with the exception of 2 in bedrooms
Flow temp reduced to 35 degrees 
Heating and HW on 24/7, set at 18 degrees by day and ...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello again</p>
<p>Finally, some good news to report…</p>
<p>Radbots disabled with the exception of 2 in bedrooms</p>
<p>Flow temp reduced to 35 degrees </p>
<p>Heating and HW on 24/7, set at 18 degrees by day and 15 at night. HW set at 45 degrees</p>
<p>The house has warmed up considerably! The electricity usage is still making our eyes water a bit but when we average it out, it’s probably costing what oil plus firewood would have cost. So… we are much warmer and not so scared! And much greener which definitely warms the cockles too. <br /><br /></p>
<p>Huge thanks to everyone who has taken the time to offer advice and words of encouragement - in particular @jamespa @cathoderay @toodles @judith &#x1f64f;</p>
<p>Finding this forum has been amazing. <br /><br /></p>
<p>Now to my next question - what to do with the now defunct oil boiler that is only 2 years old..? But that’s for another thread! &#x1f601;</p>]]></content:encoded>
						                            <category domain="https://renewableheatinghub.co.uk/forums/renewable-heating-air-source-heap-pumps-ashps/">Air Source Heat Pumps (ASHPs)</category>                        <dc:creator>JaynieQ</dc:creator>
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                        <title>RE: Totally bewildered with my ECO4 heat pump installation</title>
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                        <pubDate>Fri, 24 Jan 2025 12:12:14 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[@dwynwen It is what is known as a chisel before it is set against a grinding wheel.&#x1f609;]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[@dwynwen It is what is known as a chisel before it is set against a grinding wheel.&#x1f609;]]></content:encoded>
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                        <title>RE: Totally bewildered with my ECO4 heat pump installation</title>
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                        <pubDate>Fri, 24 Jan 2025 10:48:50 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[@jamespa And drunk in a long haul destination 5 star hotel.]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[@jamespa And drunk in a long haul destination 5 star hotel.]]></content:encoded>
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                        <title>RE: Totally bewildered with my ECO4 heat pump installation</title>
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                        <pubDate>Fri, 24 Jan 2025 10:41:13 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[If you are one of the scammers, vodka and orange over ice, garnished with a slice of orange.]]></description>
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<p>@cathoderay What is a screwdriver?</p>
<p> </p>
<p></p>
<p>If you are one of the scammers, vodka and orange over ice, garnished with a slice of orange.</p>
<p> </p>]]></content:encoded>
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                        <title>RE: Totally bewildered with my ECO4 heat pump installation</title>
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                        <pubDate>Fri, 24 Jan 2025 10:28:38 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[There is then no hope for you!]]></description>
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<p>What is a screwdriver?</p>
<p></p>
<p>There is then no hope for you!</p>
<p> </p>
<p> </p>]]></content:encoded>
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