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                        <title>RE: My Mitsubishi ASHP has used 1078kWh from 25 November to 31 December – Help please</title>
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                        <pubDate>Thu, 16 Mar 2023 19:30:30 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[@sunandair hi - yes that does help and again makes sense that it&#039;s set by the gauge on the pump itself - i.e. that is the maximum it will flow.  I&#039;ve had a manic week this week - but I need ...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[@sunandair hi - yes that does help and again makes sense that it's set by the gauge on the pump itself - i.e. that is the maximum it will flow.  I've had a manic week this week - but I need to look at the manifold on a regular basis for the living area to see what the return is.  The thermostat is set to 18 for the living area - but rarely gets to that, unless there is solar gain - for the past two days it is still 17 degrees at 18:00 - when it was 16 degrees at 09:00.  In all honesty this could be what I have to live with and it doesn't feel cold.  The other 2 zones always get up to their set temp - although their set temps are 16 (bathroom area) and 17(bedroom area).    Everything generally is SO MUCH BETTER since I first found this forum :-)]]></content:encoded>
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                        <title>RE: My Mitsubishi ASHP has used 1078kWh from 25 November to 31 December – Help please</title>
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                        <pubDate>Thu, 16 Mar 2023 11:14:32 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[Hi @Harriup
i thought I ought to add some comments on this for Sarah to consider.
Theres a good reason why there is a flow rate range quoted, and probably other reasons too. It was general...]]></description>
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<p>At the bottom of page 6 it states the water flow rate range is 10.0 to 24.8 l/m. Similar to mine, though I have also seen the tank installation manual be a bit more specific that the flow rate should be 24l/m. Not sure what to make of that difference. There is discussion in other threads about altering the flow rate to manage the difference between flow and return temperatures to 5°C, but if the manifold temps of 28 and 21 are typical then you have a slightly too large difference, which is to be expected if the flow rate is lower than it is meant to be.</p>
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<p>Hi @Harriup</p>
<p>i thought I ought to add some comments on this for Sarah to consider.</p>
<p>Theres a good reason why there is a flow rate range quoted, and probably other reasons too. <br />It was generally believed in an earlier thread (Keystone COP) that Ecodan does not have an internal pump to regulate deltaT so there are 2 things that can control it. 1. Adjusting the flow rate via the circulation pump of the primary flow and primary return and 2. The internal modulating electronics which cannot regulate the circulating pump. In other words the ecodan operates at a constant flow rate depending on the chosen set pump speed.</p>
<p>A flow rate must therefore be measured on the return primary pipe since that is precisely en-route back to the heat pump and will give a near accurate measurement of flow through the heat exchanger. (I would say it’s essential to check this before any adjustment of flow rate)</p>
<p>another thing to point out is that a 28 to 21 differential is only 7c which is quite common when the hp is still settling down. I’ve noticed it fluctuates all the time between 3c and 8c and when it starts up it can be more. <br /><br /></p>
<p>So a flow rate of 13LPM is within the acceptable band of the ecodan 8.5 provided it is being measured in the correct place in the circuit. But if the temperature difference never settles close to 5c then a slightly faster pump speed will lower the temperature difference. However there are other issues such as balancing flow rates between the primary loop and other heating circuits so this kind of adjustment really needs to be done by a professional. <br />Hope this helps</p>]]></content:encoded>
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                        <title>RE: My Mitsubishi ASHP has used 1078kWh from 25 November to 31 December – Help please</title>
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                        <pubDate>Sun, 12 Mar 2023 15:23:57 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[What are the readings on the temperature gauges at the UFH manifolds?]]></description>
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<p>@derek-m yes I think you're right - I can only see one wire and they are on number 3 the highest setting.  Had a QUICK look at a manual on-line - but that's a little beyond me.  I guess this was how it was designed.</p>
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<p>What are the readings on the temperature gauges at the UFH manifolds?</p>
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                        <title>RE: My Mitsubishi ASHP has used 1078kWh from 25 November to 31 December – Help please</title>
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                        <pubDate>Sun, 12 Mar 2023 15:18:49 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[@derek-m yes I think you&#039;re right - I can only see one wire and they are on number 3 the highest setting.  Had a QUICK look at a manual on-line - but that&#039;s a little beyond me.  I guess this...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[@derek-m yes I think you're right - I can only see one wire and they are on number 3 the highest setting.  Had a QUICK look at a manual on-line - but that's a little beyond me.  I guess this was how it was designed.]]></content:encoded>
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                        <title>RE: My Mitsubishi ASHP has used 1078kWh from 25 November to 31 December – Help please</title>
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                        <pubDate>Sun, 12 Mar 2023 12:09:34 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[If you are changing the pump speed on the FTC controller, it will only vary the flow rate if it is wired to the main water pump and is actually varying the pump speed. Do any of the pumps ha...]]></description>
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<p>interesting as doesn't seem to make any difference to speed of pump - for the last couple of days I've had it at 3 and running info shows 13 - I change the pump speed to 5 and running information still 13 - maybe this is the highest mine will go? </p>
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<p>If you are changing the pump speed on the FTC controller, it will only vary the flow rate if it is wired to the main water pump and is actually varying the pump speed. Do any of the pumps have two cable connected?</p>
<p>If, as I suspect, the main water pump is not being controlled by the FTC controller, the only way to vary the flow rate would be by using the button on the actual pump. I suggest that you download the manual for the pump.</p>
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                        <pubDate>Sun, 12 Mar 2023 09:42:54 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[interesting as doesn&#039;t seem to make any difference to speed of pump - for the last couple of days I&#039;ve had it at 3 and running info shows 13 - I change the pump speed to 5 and running inform...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>interesting as doesn't seem to make any difference to speed of pump - for the last couple of days I've had it at 3 and running info shows 13 - I change the pump speed to 5 and running information still 13 - maybe this is the highest mine will go? </p>]]></content:encoded>
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                        <pubDate>Sat, 11 Mar 2023 16:34:14 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[Hot water temp 49 and drop 21 here with a 170l tank. Drop 25 caused a cold shower once, so this was an experimental finding!]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[hot water temp to 50 degrees - (was 55) and the drop to 10 degrees (was 5)
Hot water temp 49 and drop 21 here with a 170l tank. Drop 25 caused a cold shower once, so this was an experimental finding!]]></content:encoded>
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                        <pubDate>Fri, 10 Mar 2023 21:03:31 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[OK - it&#039;s Friday night and I&#039;m still looking at my ASHP settings - but this is it for the night now!  In addition to the legionella changes - I&#039;ve also changed the hot water temp to 50 degre...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK - it's Friday night and I'm still looking at my ASHP settings - but this is it for the night now!  In addition to the legionella changes - I've also changed the hot water temp to 50 degrees - (was 55) and the drop to 10 degrees (was 5) - I've attached picture of the changes.  I've also lagged most of the hot water pipes :-)  Once again...thanks so much for all your help and advice.</p>
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                        <pubDate>Fri, 10 Mar 2023 19:47:47 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[@harriup OK - changed legionella settings to:
Temp - 60 (it was 65)
Frequency 15
Start 10:00 (was 03:00)
Max Op time 1 hour (was 3 hours)
Duration of max temp 1 minute (was 30 mins)]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@harriup OK - changed legionella settings to:</p>
<p>Temp - 60 (it was 65)</p>
<p>Frequency 15</p>
<p>Start 10:00 (was 03:00)</p>
<p>Max Op time 1 hour (was 3 hours)</p>
<p>Duration of max temp 1 minute (was 30 mins)</p>]]></content:encoded>
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                        <pubDate>Fri, 10 Mar 2023 19:21:18 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[At least you know that the filter is clean. I don&#039;t suppose that it has made any difference to the flow rate.
The next task will be to confirm that all the manual valves in the pipework are...]]></description>
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<p>@derek-m I've cleaned out the filter - not dirty at all - I guess this is because it's underfloor heating ?  Good to know how to do it and I didn't even realise I had the release tool - I did wonder what that was for !!</p>
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<p>At least you know that the filter is clean. I don't suppose that it has made any difference to the flow rate.</p>
<p>The next task will be to confirm that all the manual valves in the pipework are fully open. Then make a note of the setting of all the flow regulation valves at the UFH manifolds.</p>
<p>What are the manifold temperature gauges reading?</p>
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