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                        <title>Home automation and the cloud; is there a better way?</title>
                        <link>https://renewableheatinghub.co.uk/forums/other-renewables/home-automation-and-the-cloud-is-there-a-better-way/</link>
                        <pubDate>Sat, 25 Apr 2026 11:48:50 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[You’ve just had a brand new system installed (heat pump, solar PV and inverter, EV wallbox, smart lights, robot vacuum or lawnmower, smart blinds, whatever) and you want to do a bit of tinke...]]></description>
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<p>You’ve just had a brand new system installed (heat pump, solar PV and inverter, EV wallbox, smart lights, robot vacuum or lawnmower, smart blinds, whatever) and you want to do a bit of tinkering. You install the app on your phone and there the device is, all ready for a test drive. But how is that achieved?</p>
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<p>Pretty much all manufacturers of “Internet of Things” devices (IoT devices that I’ll refer to from now on as smart kit) adopt certain fundamental design principles:</p>
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<li>Consumers want smart kit precisely so they can interact with it.</li>
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<li>The consumer wants “easy”, and the easiest way for a consumer to interact with that smart kit is by providing them with an app they can install on their phone.</li>
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<li>The manufacturer’s developers can rely on both the phone and their own smart kit having access to the Internet, so they can make both talk home to the manufacturer’s own servers on the Internet and act as a link between the smart kit and the app.</li>
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<li>If the manufacturer can encourage interaction in this way, the manufacturer gets to see all the usage and configuration data and can use it for their own purposes too. If they can manage to make that the ONLY way of interacting with the smart kit, they can even charge for the service and turn the customer into a cash cow.</li>
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<p>I think we’re all now familiar with the term “the cloud” being used as shorthand for all this traffic to, from and through a company service made available on the web, and it has been so convenient that a lot of us have bought into the concept completely. Not all of us, however, and not in all situations, and the recent announcement of an arm of <a href="https://renewableheatinghub.co.uk/forums/energy-storage/anyone-concerned-about-givenergy" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">GivEnergy going into administration</a> provides a stark example of the potential pitfalls.</p>
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<p>The problem is that if you rely on a cloud solution, the moment that cloud solution is unavailable you start running into problems.</p>
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<li>If you have a home inverter and battery that can continue powering your home in the event of a power cut, that’s still not going to power your ISP’s systems. A power cut will still knock out your Internet connection (and any mobile provider’s masts once their backup power has been depleted, 20 minutes perhaps?), so how do you make a change to your inverter at that point?</li>
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<li>If the manufacturer providing the cloud solution (e.g. GivEnergy) goes bust and the servers have to be switched off, how can you access your kit?</li>
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<li>If the cloud solution provider decides to start charging for the service, what choice do you have other than simply coughing up the money?</li>
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<p>This is a specific issue GivEnergy customers have had to address recently, but it’s not just a situation specific to them. Quite a few voices of dissent have questioned the wisdom of total cloud reliance and have looked at ways to manage their smart kit in ways that either cut out or reduce reliance on Internet connectivity.</p>
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<p>One of the most commonly talked about alternatives is to install a home automation system (most commonly Home Assistant) on your network and then get it talking to each of your bits of smart kit directly. For example:</p>
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<li>My inverter has a two-wire physical connection to it, and Home Assistant uses Modbus to control it and the connected battery over those two wires. No Internet needed.</li>
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<li>My heat pump doesn’t have a connection for employing Modbus, so it has a little dongle that plugs into a different connector, and that dongle then plugs into the network. Home Assistant talks over the network with that dongle to send commands when necessary to the heat pump. No Internet needed.</li>
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<li>My car charger comes equipped with a physical network connection as well as being Wi-Fi capable. Home Assistant talks across the network to the car charger to control it. No Internet needed.</li>
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<li>My security camera and DVR are both plugged into the network, so Home Assistant can connect locally there too. No Internet needed.</li>
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<li>A similar story (albeit via Wi-Fi instead) for my smart plugs, my various greenhouse sensors, my EV, printer, smoke alarms, even my robot vacuum. No Internet needed.</li>
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<p>Understandably, there are good reasons for using some Internet-based services... Octopus’ tariff information, weather forecasts, solar generation forecasts and so forth. I also maintain cloud-based monitoring of my heat pump in parallel for a bit of cross-checking. However, I have a balance that’s right for me in being relatively independent from cloud service providers playing games or disappearing.</p>
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<p>The problem, of course, is that now I’ve centralised control of my integrated home onto a local Home Assistant server, I either have to only interact with it when I’m at home or I have to do something to make my local server accessible over the Internet. Given the latter (the more desirable option) is fraught with potential security issues, it’s worth examining what options are available to do this safely, but to do this we first need to understand a bit about how your Internet connection works.</p>
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<p>In a nutshell, a router is a piece of networking equipment that acts as a gateway to other networks. Typically, you’ll have a single home network, and everything on your home network can see (and talk to) everything else on that same network. If you want to talk with something on a different network (the Internet, for example) you’ll need to go through a router.</p>
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<p>Strictly speaking, though, a router doesn’t care where the traffic is coming from or going to; it just helpfully ushers everything through. In order to avoid the whole Internet constantly looking around your virtual home, you need something that can understand the difference between public and private, and that, as I’m sure you’re well aware, is a firewall.</p>
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<p>A firewall is a router that can be configured with rules, and it blocks traffic from one network to another unless there’s a rule explicitly stating it’s allowed. Those rules can be very restrictive (only let this computer talk to that server for such and such a purpose) or relatively relaxed (let all computers at home access the Internet to do whatever they want), but since your home network is regarded as a private network, anything going out to the Internet is actually hidden behind the address of the firewall. It doesn’t matter, for instance, if you are the only Renewable Heating Hub member in your home or the whole family have signed up; every connection from your home (your PC, your phone, your spouse’s tablet, etc.) will appear to the <a href="https://renewableheatinghub.co.uk/forums">Renewable Heating Hub forum</a> as coming from the same place.</p>
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<p>I mentioned earlier about rules that can restrict to a particular purpose, and that’s an important concept here. Each computer can be found on a network because it’s been given a unique address; hopefully you’re familiar with an IP address. However, a server often has multiple jobs to do, so if your computer wants to talk with that server for a particular purpose, it also has to let the server know which hat to wear; do you want it to be working as an email server, a web server, a streaming server, or something else? That is done using ports. So, to send an email, your phone or PC needs to connect to a mail server (a particular IP address) and then talk to it on port 25.</p>
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<p>Browsing the forum requires you to connect to the RHH server (a different server and therefore a different IP address) and then browse on port 443 (the correct port for an HTTPS website). If you try to talk with the RHH server on port 25, you won’t get an answer because that server doesn’t handle email. It’s a bit like trying to get through to a particular department in a company’s customer services; not only do you have to dial the right phone number, you also have to choose the correct option afterwards, and if you don’t, you might end up speaking to someone in debt collection instead of technical support.</p>
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<p>Putting all this together and coming back to your Home Assistant server, the first and simplest option you have is to sidestep all the networking altogether and use a feature built into Home Assistant – Home Assistant Cloud. The company behind Home Assistant (Nabu Casa) hosts their own servers running their own version of Home Assistant, and Home Assistant Cloud allows your HA instance to talk with theirs so they can maintain a synchronised copy of your setup. If you do something with the cloud instance, that change is immediately replicated back to your home. It might not have escaped your notice, of course, that you’ve just swapped one cloud service for another, although you have at least consolidated your separate apps for inverter, heat pump, EV charging, etc., into one app that does everything. It’s also something Nabu Casa charges for, and currently it’s £6.50 per month or £65.00 per year.</p>
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<p>If you don’t want a monthly or yearly outgoing fee, your next option is to tell your firewall to allow any computer on the Internet through to your HA server on HA’s normal port (which happens to be 8123). This option is called port forwarding, and I would most definitely NOT recommend it, because it leaves your system wide open to attackers. Additionally, unless your contract with your Internet Service Provider provides you with a static (unchanging) IP address, you can’t even be sure you’ll be able to find your server next time you’re out of the house.</p>
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<p>The problem of your external IP address changing is normally possible to solve, or at least mitigate, by using a service called DuckDNS. It’s basically a way of referring to a computer name (myHomeAssistant.somedomain.com) rather than an IP address and letting the service deal with what the latest IP address actually is. Unfortunately, while it solves the issue of reliably accessing your Home Assistant, it doesn’t improve security at all; you’ve still got an unprotected home server available on the Internet.</p>
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<p>The next step up, then, is to use something called a reverse proxy. The idea is that a computer on the Internet connects to this middleman proxy, which then adds a whole layer of secure processing to the connection it opens up with your Home Assistant server. If you’ve ever tried to contact a company director and found yourself having to go through their PA, you’ll understand how effective this proxy approach can be; your message gets through, but only after being filtered and checked. The main drawback is that reverse proxies are complex to set up. If you enjoy technical challenges, it can be rewarding, but it’s not ideal for most users.</p>
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<p>Another alternative is to set up a VPN (virtual private network). Here, software installed on your phone or PC and similar software on your server or firewall work together to create a secure, private channel across the Internet that behaves like an extension of your home network. It’s relatively secure and not too difficult to configure, but every device you want to connect must have the VPN software installed. The key advantage is that, unlike other methods, you don’t need to enable port forwarding, which is a significant security benefit.</p>
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<p>The final option to consider is the use of a Cloudflare tunnel. Cloudflare is a major Internet security company, and a Cloudflare tunnel is somewhat like setting up a VPN between Cloudflare and your home server, then using a Cloudflare-hosted address as a proxy for your server. This still introduces a dependency on a third party, but unlike smaller providers, Cloudflare’s scale makes it a relatively stable choice. If Cloudflare were to fail, it would have widespread consequences far beyond your personal setup.</p>
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<p>The idea is that you create a free account with Cloudflare and set up a tunnel with a chosen name (e.g. Dennis). You install an add-on in Home Assistant called Cloudflared and configure it with the tunnel credentials. This creates a secure link between Cloudflare and your server. You can then define publicly accessible endpoints (e.g. homeassistant.bloodnok.com) that map to local services (e.g. homeassistant.local:8123). You can access your system via the Cloudflare address, without exposing your home network directly. The only real cost is registering a domain name, typically around £10 per year, although this can be used for other services like email or a personal website.</p>
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<p>There’s a lot to take in here. I’ve given a brief overview of why you might want to take control of your smart kit away from manufacturers, why local hosting can be beneficial, and how you might safely access your system remotely. It’s not trivial, and there is a learning curve, but the result can be a stable, scalable and manageable system. If you’re interested but have questions, head over to the forums and ask. If you’ve already gone down this route, it would be useful to hear your experiences.</p>
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						                            <category domain="https://renewableheatinghub.co.uk/forums/"></category>                        <dc:creator>Majordennisbloodnok</dc:creator>
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                        <title>Summer usage. Why is my Vaillant Aerotherm using so much energy on &quot;heating&quot;?</title>
                        <link>https://renewableheatinghub.co.uk/forums/renewable-heating-air-source-heap-pumps-ashps/summer-usage/</link>
                        <pubDate>Sat, 25 Apr 2026 08:01:46 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[Hi everyone,  Having had our 3.5 Aerotherm installed Sept 25, only now am I continually operating with heating off.  The following show usage over the past few days.  Can anyone explain why ...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi everyone,  Having had our 3.5 Aerotherm installed Sept 25, only now am I continually operating with heating off.  The following show usage over the past few days.  Can anyone explain why I am using so much “heating” energy when the system is off?  The second screenshot is particularly surprising showing 1kWhr of energy goes into heating to generate 200W of heat - while heating is off?</p>
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<p>I checked the DHW only information and it shows a COP of 3.27 so the system appears to be using 1 kWhr which is being wasted?  Over the next 6 months, that strikes me quite a lot.</p>]]></content:encoded>
						                            <category domain="https://renewableheatinghub.co.uk/forums/"></category>                        <dc:creator>DavidB</dc:creator>
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                        <title>End-of-Life Heat Pumps: How Do You Dispose of an ASHP in the UK?</title>
                        <link>https://renewableheatinghub.co.uk/forums/renewable-heating-air-source-heap-pumps-ashps/end-of-life-heat-pumps-how-do-you-dispose-of-an-ashp-in-the-uk/</link>
                        <pubDate>Fri, 24 Apr 2026 22:16:55 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[As many of you know, our Global Energy Systems heat pump is finally being replaced this summer.
Which has prompted a slightly less glamorous, but very real question… what do you actually do...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span>As many of you know, our Global Energy Systems heat pump is finally being replaced this summer.</span></p>
<p><span>Which has prompted a slightly less glamorous, but very real question… what do you actually </span><span>do</span><span> with an old heat pump when it’s come to the end of its life and died?</span></p>
<p><span>Ours has been sat there for nearly seven years, and while all the focus is usually on spec, performance and installation, nobody really talks about the exit strategy. Disposal, recycling, strip-out… who handles it, what it costs, what can be salvaged and what just gets scrapped.</span></p>
<p><span>So I thought it was worth opening this up as a thread.</span></p>
<p><span>If you’ve had a unit removed:</span></p>
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<li><span>Who dealt with it — installer, manufacturer, or third party?</span></li>
<li>Was it recycled, scrapped, or refurbished?</li>
<li><span>Any costs or surprises?</span></li>
<li><span>Anything you’d do differently?</span></li>
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<p><span>We’re working through our own plan now and I’ll share exactly what we end up doing once it’s sorted, but it’d be useful to gather some real-world experiences in the meantime to help others in similar situations.</span></p>]]></content:encoded>
						                            <category domain="https://renewableheatinghub.co.uk/forums/"></category>                        <dc:creator>Mars</dc:creator>
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                        <title>Changes to Tesla Powerwall Charging Regime?</title>
                        <link>https://renewableheatinghub.co.uk/forums/energy-storage/changes-to-tesla-powerwall-charging-regime/</link>
                        <pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2026 13:54:53 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[I have noticed lately that the charging pattern has been changing a little; whereas the charging from grid option would set the Powerwall to charge at a high rate until fully charged, this i...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have noticed lately that the charging pattern has been changing a little; whereas the charging from grid option would set the Powerwall to charge at a high rate until fully charged, this is no longer the case. Observing the charging cycle, there is a definite slowing of charge rate above 80%; this I think is to be kinder to the battery and extend life span. Just today, whilst there is plenty of sun about, I have observed that this ‘protection’ regime seems to have been extended to solar power charging too. I was a little surprised to find that my battery had stopped charging at ~80% and was then ‘resting’ so the remaining solar power was being sent to the grid. Very soon after, my Eddi kicked in and diverted ~3 kW to the Sunamp Thermino heat battery, Once that was fully charged, the Powerwall started to charge again and has continued to do so and will stop at 100% very shortly. Looks as though Tesla are attempting to Elon gate the life of the Powerwalls. Screengrabs attached. Regards, Toodles.</p>
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                        <title>Brand and installer questions for ASHP</title>
                        <link>https://renewableheatinghub.co.uk/forums/renewable-heating-air-source-heap-pumps-ashps/brand-and-installer-questions/</link>
                        <pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2026 11:11:40 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[Hi all
We are currently in the process of having ASHP installed and I&#039;m finding myself getting a bit frustrated and would appreciate a sense check. 
I&#039;m using an umbrella scheme as my dad ...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi all</p>
<p>We are currently in the process of having ASHP installed and I'm finding myself getting a bit frustrated and would appreciate a sense check. </p>
<p>I'm using an umbrella scheme as my dad is a heating engineer with 30 years experience though not really had any involvement with ASHPs. I've completed my own heat loss which showed about 8.7 kw, umbrella scheme calculated 9.3kw. I've just completed the install of the rads which should work to a flow temp of 45c -3c, though I have upsized a few of them which should enable us to drop the flow a couple of degrees. </p>
<p>My installer (umbrella scheme) has recommended a specific brand (Panasonic) and their quote for supplying was £9.5k (just for the equipment). He has been fairly open from the start that we can order ourselves if we can find it cheaper (obviously this would be inclusive of VAT). The umbrella scheme also covers Daikin, Valliant &amp; Mitsubishi. </p>
<p>I have enquired a couple of times about going for other brands but he's heavily pushing us to Panasonic. I've had a look yesterday and I can't see why we couldn't use the Mitsubishi Ecodan which have a 10kw unit and come with a preplumbed cylinder. All for about £7k. For the Pansonic I can get this for about £7,300, if I source it myself and obviously wouldn't be preplumbed. I've found as well that Pansonic really don't seem to be transparent with the equipment supplied as well as a lack of 3rd party integrations that have got me a bit concerned. </p>
<p>Is there anything I should be aware of that would favour one brand over the other? We are trying to be as cost effective as possible. The property had no central heating system so we have had to install everything from scratch, along with a never ending list of other things to sink money into. My dad feels as though we can't push back to much as at the end of the day he's got to sign everything off to get the grant. </p>
<p>Thank you in advance. </p>
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                        <title>Upgrading my system, how far do I go?</title>
                        <link>https://renewableheatinghub.co.uk/forums/solar-photovoltaic-pv/upgrading-my-system-how-far-do-i-go/</link>
                        <pubDate>Wed, 22 Apr 2026 13:01:08 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[*Note to admin, I wasn&#039;t sure whether to post here, in storage or in tariffs as it applies to all three*I&#039;ve had 4.4kW Solar PV (South Facing Main roof) and a Gen 1 GE inverter + 2 x 2.6kWh ...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span>*Note to admin, I wasn't sure whether to post here, in storage or in tariffs as it applies to all three*</span><br /><br /><span>I've had 4.4kW Solar PV (South Facing Main roof) and a Gen 1 GE inverter + 2 x 2.6kWh Gen 1 GE batteries for just over 4 years now. I've also had an ASHP for just a little longer, it has worked great in tandem with the PV and batteries and Octopus Cosy tariff (had Flux that first Summer in 2023 when the prices made sense, but hasn't been worth it since for the system size). </span><br /><br /><span>My batteries only charge/discharge at 2.5kW and we have managed, but I'd like to upgrade to a 12kW inverter and start with a 10kWh battery (pretty sold on Sigenergy, I know a few others in the forum are not sure, but I like the look of it more over a Tesla PW3). We still cook with gas, but will be going electric and on cold days will need a higher discharge rate to run the ASHP and the kitchen at the same time.</span><br /><br /><span>If I wasn't on Cosy, say the Intelligent Go tariff, to cover the coldest days in winter I would need a lot more battery storage and I'm not sure that it would stack up financially. </span><br /><br /><span>I'm also considering more Solar PV, we can get 4 panels on a lower south facing roof, 14 or 16 on the north facing and some on the west facing wall.</span><br /><br /><span>What are the current options for arbitrage, isn't IOF closed now to new applicants? Axle energy? Is it worth it to get additional PV?</span></p>]]></content:encoded>
						                            <category domain="https://renewableheatinghub.co.uk/forums/"></category>                        <dc:creator>TRBob</dc:creator>
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                        <title>Microbore heat pump installs</title>
                        <link>https://renewableheatinghub.co.uk/forums/renewable-heating-air-source-heap-pumps-ashps/microbore-installs/</link>
                        <pubDate>Mon, 20 Apr 2026 21:51:59 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[Hi all, just joined as in the thinking about heat pump installation but a but terrified by what I have seen. i don&#039;t want a half baked compromise system and everything in my bungalow off the...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi all, just joined as in the thinking about heat pump installation but a but terrified by what I have seen. i don't want a half baked compromise system and everything in my bungalow off the main run of pipes in the roof space of my bungalow is 8mm copper microbore. I need to convince my wife that we can have a highly efficient Heat Pump system (at a manageable cost, but I am concerned I might have to replace all the microbore at a cost of at least 5k plus a full redecorate). Or settle for a system of low efficiency. We live in a reasonably well insulated late 60's bungalow with hot water central heating and a combi boiler. so i am dreading spending money getting quotes and then finding I am facing a 20k estimate. (repiping at 5k, redecorating at 2k, install after grant at 4k, water tank at 2.5k, and probably 2 additional 10kw batteries at 5k.</p>
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<p>Am i being paranoid? What are your thoughts?</p>]]></content:encoded>
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                        <title>Growatt Power Mode</title>
                        <link>https://renewableheatinghub.co.uk/forums/solar-photovoltaic-pv/growatt-power-mode/</link>
                        <pubDate>Sun, 19 Apr 2026 20:11:50 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[My installer set up my system on &quot;Power Generation Mode&quot; but how does &quot;Power Consumption Mode&quot; differ and how do you choose?]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My installer set up my system on "Power Generation Mode" but how does "Power Consumption Mode" differ and how do you choose?</p>]]></content:encoded>
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                        <title>Guidance with installing a new heating system</title>
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                        <pubDate>Sun, 19 Apr 2026 15:23:13 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[Hi everyone, I&#039;m planning to install a new heating system (heat pump + underfloor) in my house, possibly later this year. For context, the total area is about 75 square metres (one floor onl...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi everyone, I'm planning to install a new heating system (heat pump + underfloor) in my house, possibly later this year. For context, the total area is about 75 square metres (one floor only). This is a new build, with 10 cm XPS under the UF pipes (16mm), 20cm EPS exterior insulation, vapour membrane and 20cm mineral wool in the ceiling, triple glazed windows and doors. I've no prior experience with this stuff, but I've watched and heard loads of "horror" stories about failed heat pump installations and UF heating going wrong. So, I thought that I would do a bit of research on this topic before contacting an installer, just so I would be able to judge if everything at least sounds OK before I commit to anything. With the help of ChatGPT I was able to learn a few things about this topic, and I did even manage to put together a "schematic" of the system. ChatGPT suggested a Samsung EHS AE050CXYDEK/EU heat pump (5kW), and other (should I call them?) accessories. In principle I understand the role each part plays within the system, but I would highly appreciate if anyone with experience could offer any "real world" advice / feedback / insights, as we all know that ChatGPT tends to hallucinate sometimes (in fact, ChatGPT asked me to update it quite a few times, as it changed its "mind" :-)). I would not be very happy if I later found that I went in a completely wrong direction with this. Thank you, much appreciated.</p>
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                        <title>UK DIY Battery: SEPLOS 48V 200Ah x2 + Sunsynk 8K – Safe Installation for Garage Conversion</title>
                        <link>https://renewableheatinghub.co.uk/forums/energy-storage/uk-diy-battery-setup-looking-to-have-a-thread-that-will-help-me-and-others/</link>
                        <pubDate>Sat, 18 Apr 2026 13:06:00 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[my To be setup system will be .2* SEPLOS Mason 48V DIY2 * 48V 200A 16S Seplos BMS2 * 58V 400A Fuse internalall of above is part of the internal &quot;selplos&quot; system, all within the unit.arrived ...]]></description>
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<div class="bbWrapper">my To be setup system will be .<br />2* SEPLOS Mason 48V DIY<br />2 * 48V 200A 16S Seplos BMS<br />2 * 58V 400A Fuse internal<br />all of above is part of the internal "selplos" system, all within the unit.<br />arrived Feb 2026<br />Built and working fine ~ some learning but all done in 12hr for both.<br />All disconnected and powered off until DNO approval and my logic for setup correct<br />So this is a 48v 200A<br /><br />2 * 16 MB31 314Ah Grade A Bundle (installed into 2* SEPLOS above)<br />giving home ~ 32kw <br /><br />1* SYNK-8K-SG05LP1<br />This is the popular UK Sunsynk Sun 8K ECCO Hybrid Inverter<br /><br />1* 3meter 50mm² cable RED. - will be cut to same length where needed<br />1* 3meter 50mm² cable RED. - will be cut to same length where needed<br /><br />1* firexo All in One Fire Extinguisher (2 Litre / 2 kg) - Multipurpose Extinguisher for ALL FIRES inc<br />1 * fireAngel Optical Smoke Alarm 2-Pack - FA6620 10-Year Battery Smoke Alarms<br />1* FireAngel Heat Alarm for Kitchen with 10 Year Sealed for Life Battery - FA6720-R Heat Detector<br />above 3 for peace of mind<br /><br />My Solar runs from an existing inverter in the loft ( 7 year old now) and I will never connect to these solar panels to Sunsnk inverter/this battery system. <br />Don't care about saving money on this long term, happy to have them both independently working.<br />I have done various scenario build modelling.<br /><br />so requirements are<br /><br />32kw will never be expanded - no desire, don't care if I pull from grid, this system will save money in long term and want it all install and forget. don't care to squeeze every penny out of system as its more a learning journey for future house than saving every penny.<br /><br />will not be exporting any power to the grid, will not be MCS approved BUT need it UK regs safe.<br /><br />want to have all cables within trunking/contained to meet regs/safely.<br />as system within garage conversion into study want to ensure I don't burn myself or anyone.<br /><br />now my Qs<br /><br />#1. is it better to have these 2 batteries connected together then connected up to the fuse/breaker etc..<br /><br />independently from answer to #1, I have been looking to connect this to a busbar, the ones on amazon are sneaky as they state 300a but at 12v. <br />#2.1. Q - Sunsyk do a busbar ( Sunsynk-bb-300) at cost of £190. - this is expensive I feel but if best choice then will buy<br />#2.2 Q - Victron do a busbar called Lynx. , can this be used as better bang for buck <br />#2.2.1. Q if victron is a better choice then which model <br /><br />busbar or not setup. looking to help on correct sequence on the positive side - I know I have added busbar to each Q below, if I don't need (another cost and failure point) and battery connecting together better then will go down this route. If busbar give more safety then will run down here<br /><br />#3. Battery → Busbar / Lynx Busbar / Lynx → 200A DC FUSE → DC Isolator → Sunsynk<br /><br />or <br /><br />#4 Busbar / Lynx -&gt; MEGA Fuse Holder (200A) -&gt; DC Isolator -&gt; Sunsynk SYNK‑8K<br /><br /><br />will add more Q into thread as it will help breakdown the Q &amp; A better for me and others- Thanks in advance.</div>
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