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                        <title>RE: Heat Pump SCOPs – The Truth Might Not Be What You Think</title>
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                        <pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2025 12:53:46 +0000</pubDate>
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                        <title>RE: Heat Pump SCOPs – The Truth Might Not Be What You Think</title>
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                        <pubDate>Mon, 08 Sep 2025 18:48:36 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[Is that heat loss, or maximum output of the ASHP?  Understand they should be fairly close in a good system, but both vary by outside temperatures.]]></description>
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<p>Aim for 15+ l/kW System Volume</p>
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<p>Is that heat loss, or maximum output of the ASHP?  Understand they should be fairly close in a good system, but both vary by outside temperatures.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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                        <title>RE: Heat Pump SCOPs – The Truth Might Not Be What You Think</title>
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                        <pubDate>Sun, 07 Sep 2025 21:37:02 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[I think you’ll find it depends on the room heat loss. A low loss room can be heated by a much smaller difference between mean water temperature and required room temperatures with a moderate...]]></description>
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<p>You can even go as low as 40c flow temp, if you want a high SCOP, as long as your radiators are sized correctly and you use the correct desired room temp, nothing is impossible. I don't think you will find any radiators that can do 40c flow rate and room temp higher than 21c, unless going to silly 3 meters K3 rads or very very expensive multi chamber rads (£10k per radiator).</p>
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<p>I think you’ll find it depends on the room heat loss. A low loss room can be heated by a much smaller difference between mean water temperature and required room temperatures with a moderate sized radiator. Of course we usually all want the smallest radiator that will work in the room. They’re not works of art despite the marketing of some designs.</p>
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                        <title>RE: Heat Pump SCOPs – The Truth Might Not Be What You Think</title>
                        <link>https://renewableheatinghub.co.uk/forums/renewable-heating-air-source-heap-pumps-ashps/heat-pump-scops-the-truth-might-not-be-what-you-think/paged/2/#post-48547</link>
                        <pubDate>Thu, 04 Sep 2025 09:00:24 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[Sufficient system volume is also essential for ensuring there is enough energy in the system to perform effective defrost cycles (unless there is some form of additional heater present). Wit...]]></description>
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<p><br /><strong>Aim for 15+ l/kW System Volume</strong>: This seems to be a reasonable rule of thumb for optimising efficiency.<br /><br />Can you explain the mechanism for this effect? Could it just be coincidental rather than causal? System volume may prevent short cycling, but there are other ways of achieving that. </p>
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<p>Sufficient system volume is also essential for ensuring there is enough energy in the system to perform effective defrost cycles (unless there is some form of additional heater present). Without sufficient volume, constant defrost cycles will quickly kill efficiency in colder weather, and leave the house cold.</p>
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                        <title>RE: Heat Pump SCOPs – The Truth Might Not Be What You Think</title>
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                        <pubDate>Thu, 04 Sep 2025 08:52:50 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[We run a standard flow temp of around 32C all year round (certainly between 30-35C) and achieve a comfortable (for us) 20C room temp. Our radiators are all of standard K2 types. Other than o...]]></description>
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<p>You can even go as low as 40c flow temp, if you want a high SCOP, as long as your radiators are sized correctly and you use the correct desired room temp, nothing is impossible. I don't think you will find any radiators that can do 40c flow rate and room temp higher than 21c, unless going to silly 3 meters K3 rads or very very expensive multi chamber rads (£10k per radiator).</p>
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<p>We run a standard flow temp of around 32C all year round (certainly between 30-35C) and achieve a comfortable (for us) 20C room temp. Our radiators are all of standard K2 types. Other than on the very coldest of nights, even running a flow temp of 30C overnight puts out more heat than required as we like a setback of 18C for sleeping.</p>
<p>As long as your emitters are large enough to dissipate the required amount of heat at reduced flow temps, very low flow temps are possible. The limiting factor for us is actually dissipating the ~3.5kW of heat produced by the heat pump when running at minimum during milder weather, hence the required 32C flow temps. Any lower and the radiators cannot dissipate that 3.5kW output flowing from the heat pump.</p>
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                        <title>RE: Heat Pump SCOPs – The Truth Might Not Be What You Think</title>
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                        <pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2025 22:06:24 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[You can even go as low as 40c flow temp, if you want a high SCOP, as long as your radiators are sized correctly and you use the correct desired room temp, nothing is impossible. I don&#039;t thin...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[You can even go as low as 40c flow temp, if you want a high SCOP, as long as your radiators are sized correctly and you use the correct desired room temp, nothing is impossible. I don't think you will find any radiators that can do 40c flow rate and room temp higher than 21c, unless going to silly 3 meters K3 rads or very very expensive multi chamber rads (£10k per radiator).]]></content:encoded>
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                        <title>RE: Heat Pump SCOPs – The Truth Might Not Be What You Think</title>
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                        <pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2025 22:00:54 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[A heat pump is only as good as the desired room temperature. Bearing in mind that optimal room temperature for cognitive function sits between 21 and 24 degrees, with average around 22/23 de...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[A heat pump is only as good as the desired room temperature. Bearing in mind that optimal room temperature for cognitive function sits between 21 and 24 degrees, with average around 22/23 degrees. 45 flow temperature relates to around 42.5 mean water temperature (MWT). Make sure to use that with your heat loss calculation, desired room temp and radiator sizes for best outcome.]]></content:encoded>
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                        <title>RE: Heat Pump SCOPs – The Truth Might Not Be What You Think</title>
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                        <pubDate>Fri, 06 Dec 2024 07:58:56 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[Thanks I will try that and look at results]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[Thanks I will try that and look at results]]></content:encoded>
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                        <title>RE: Heat Pump SCOPs – The Truth Might Not Be What You Think</title>
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                        <pubDate>Fri, 06 Dec 2024 07:58:11 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[Yes I have room temperature 20.5 and live in central belt . Perhaps I was overthinking scop it’s gone back to daily cop of 4.5 . Will try lower pump speed as heat pump comes off and on 2 or ...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[Yes I have room temperature 20.5 and live in central belt . Perhaps I was overthinking scop it’s gone back to daily cop of 4.5 . Will try lower pump speed as heat pump comes off and on 2 or 3 times an hour
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                        <title>RE: Heat Pump SCOPs – The Truth Might Not Be What You Think</title>
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                        <pubDate>Thu, 05 Dec 2024 18:00:46 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[Can you explain the mechanism for this effect? Could it just be coincidental rather than causal? System volume may prevent short cycling, but there are other ways of achieving that.]]></description>
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<strong>Aim for 15+ l/kW System Volume</strong>: This seems to be a reasonable rule of thumb for optimising efficiency.

Can you explain the mechanism for this effect? Could it just be coincidental rather than causal? System volume may prevent short cycling, but there are other ways of achieving that. ]]></content:encoded>
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