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									Daikin COP / energy used measurement from MMI - Air Source Heat Pumps (ASHPs)				            </title>
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                        <title>RE: Daikin COP / energy used measurement from MMI</title>
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                        <pubDate>Mon, 08 Apr 2024 20:37:48 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[And yes, I am running a software thermostat in Home Assistant as the Madoka is too “quirky” for my liking.]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And yes, I am running a software thermostat in Home Assistant as the Madoka is too “quirky” for my liking. </p>]]></content:encoded>
						                            <category domain="https://renewableheatinghub.co.uk/forums/renewable-heating-air-source-heap-pumps-ashps/">Air Source Heat Pumps (ASHPs)</category>                        <dc:creator>Anonymous 5546</dc:creator>
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                        <title>RE: Daikin COP / energy used measurement from MMI</title>
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                        <pubDate>Mon, 08 Apr 2024 20:36:25 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[Both ESPAltherma and Daikin integration connect to Home Assistant. 
The Daikin integration exposes sensors that match the ONECTA app or MMI; so for me that means incorrect electricity consu...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Both ESPAltherma and Daikin integration connect to Home Assistant. </p>
<p>The Daikin integration exposes sensors that match the ONECTA app or MMI; so for me that means incorrect electricity consumption.</p>
<p>ESPaltherma is much lower level, but the electricity (voltage and current) sensors are considered inaccurate, so people seem to be using external monitoring. I’ve got a CT clamp around the heat pump feed that goes back to an Eddi, then I collect the data in HA. <br /><br /></p>
<p>If you want to get going with ESPAltherma, there’s an excellent guide here:</p>
<p>https://community.openenergymonitor.org/t/daikin-altherma-espaltherma-home-assistant-with-openenergymonitor/25057/6</p>]]></content:encoded>
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                        <title>RE: Daikin COP / energy used measurement from MMI</title>
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                        <pubDate>Mon, 08 Apr 2024 19:53:09 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[@squarepeg77 Hi! Is it your ESPAltherma that is connected to Home Assistant? Or are you using the Onecta API for the Home Assistant? And the ESPAltherma gives you the same wrong readings as ...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@squarepeg77 Hi! Is it your ESPAltherma that is connected to Home Assistant? Or are you using the Onecta API for the Home Assistant? <br />And the ESPAltherma gives you the same wrong readings as the Onecta app and MMI?</p>
<p>Have you set up any home automation or smart steering of your heat pump?</p>]]></content:encoded>
						                            <category domain="https://renewableheatinghub.co.uk/forums/renewable-heating-air-source-heap-pumps-ashps/">Air Source Heat Pumps (ASHPs)</category>                        <dc:creator>HCas</dc:creator>
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                        <title>RE: Daikin COP / energy used measurement from MMI</title>
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                        <pubDate>Mon, 08 Apr 2024 19:42:31 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[@squarepeg77 Thanks for the reply. I never got an answer either but it just resolved itself, checked it a few days after posting here and all was good again I had readings back! I don&#039;t beli...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[@squarepeg77 Thanks for the reply. I never got an answer either but it just resolved itself, checked it a few days after posting here and all was good again I had readings back! I don't believe it to be 100% accurate but it gives a guide to how the unit performs. I've found the same with Daikin, they never seem overly interested in providing any help]]></content:encoded>
						                            <category domain="https://renewableheatinghub.co.uk/forums/renewable-heating-air-source-heap-pumps-ashps/">Air Source Heat Pumps (ASHPs)</category>                        <dc:creator>Crasher</dc:creator>
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                        <title>RE: Daikin COP / energy used measurement from MMI</title>
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                        <pubDate>Mon, 08 Apr 2024 19:08:53 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[@hcas I’ve got the Daikin integration for Home Assistant; it seems to show the same (bad) electricity data as the MMI &#x1f614;]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@hcas I’ve got the Daikin integration for Home Assistant; it seems to show the same (bad) electricity data as the MMI &#x1f614; </p>]]></content:encoded>
						                            <category domain="https://renewableheatinghub.co.uk/forums/renewable-heating-air-source-heap-pumps-ashps/">Air Source Heat Pumps (ASHPs)</category>                        <dc:creator>Anonymous 5546</dc:creator>
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                        <title>RE: Daikin COP / energy used measurement from MMI</title>
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                        <pubDate>Mon, 08 Apr 2024 19:06:21 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[@crasher sorry, I missed your message. 
I haven’t found a fix for this. I mentioned it to Octopus and a Daikin engineer when they visited and they were not very interested, stating that it ...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@crasher sorry, I missed your message. <br /><br /></p>
<p>I haven’t found a fix for this. I mentioned it to Octopus and a Daikin engineer when they visited and they were not very interested, stating that it was only approximate anyway. <br /><br /></p>
<p>So I setup ESPAltherma and have had it running for 3 months with Home Assistant:</p>
<p>https://raomin.github.io/ESPAltherma/<br /><br />It is excellent and provides great insight into what your Daikin is doing. </p>]]></content:encoded>
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                        <title>RE: Daikin COP / energy used measurement from MMI</title>
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                        <pubDate>Mon, 08 Apr 2024 18:59:12 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[Were you able to solve the lack of electricity usage data?
Did anyone try to access the Onecta API directly? So not through the app or via the MMI, but directly in the API.]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Were you able to solve the lack of electricity usage data?</p>
<p>Did anyone try to access the Onecta API directly? So not through the app or via the MMI, but directly in the API. </p>]]></content:encoded>
						                            <category domain="https://renewableheatinghub.co.uk/forums/renewable-heating-air-source-heap-pumps-ashps/">Air Source Heat Pumps (ASHPs)</category>                        <dc:creator>HCas</dc:creator>
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                        <title>RE: Daikin COP / energy used measurement from MMI</title>
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                        <pubDate>Tue, 12 Mar 2024 19:51:16 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[@squarepeg77 did you ever get anywhere with finding a solution to the problem with electricity usage reading 0kWh?
My unit has started doing the very same thing since last week. I can&#039;t see...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@squarepeg77 did you ever get anywhere with finding a solution to the problem with electricity usage reading 0kWh?</p>
<p>My unit has started doing the very same thing since last week. I can't seem to be able to get any answers on how to resolve it.</p>
<p>Thanks.</p>]]></content:encoded>
						                            <category domain="https://renewableheatinghub.co.uk/forums/renewable-heating-air-source-heap-pumps-ashps/">Air Source Heat Pumps (ASHPs)</category>                        <dc:creator>Crasher</dc:creator>
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                        <title>RE: Daikin COP / energy used measurement from MMI</title>
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                        <pubDate>Tue, 21 Nov 2023 12:37:03 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[I have a similar Daikin system and although it seems to accurately show the electricity used, I have my doubts over the accuracy of the heat produced.
According to the system it only produc...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a similar Daikin system and although it seems to accurately show the electricity used, I have my doubts over the accuracy of the heat produced.</p>
<p>According to the system it only produced 10,000 kWh of heat in a year, at a COP of 2.6. My heat loss calculations suggest it should be more like 14,000 kWh which would make the COP more like 3.6.</p>
<p> </p>
<p>As for the "electricity in", my installer fitted a separate meter on the incoming supply, and it agrees pretty closely with what the unit thinks it has used (4425 kWh since installation on the external meter, versus 4441 kWh on the unit display).</p>]]></content:encoded>
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                        <pubDate>Tue, 21 Nov 2023 11:12:22 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[I have altherma 3 h ht 16 kw and the same problem. Problem started last year. Until last year (2 years) was consumption of energy working just fine and worked well. Until last year is every ...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have altherma 3 h ht 16 kw and the same problem. Problem started last year. Until last year (2 years) was consumption of energy working just fine and worked well. Until last year is every day 0 kw. I need that information, but nobody od Daikin can not help me. What to do ? </p>]]></content:encoded>
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