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									November Bills - Electricity, Tariffs, Monitoring, Electrics &amp; Providers				            </title>
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                        <title>RE: November Bills</title>
                        <link>https://renewableheatinghub.co.uk/forums/electricity-providers/november-bills/paged/2/#post-4223</link>
                        <pubDate>Fri, 03 Dec 2021 11:45:42 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[@witchcraft 
that&#039;s not bad, especially with batteries.  I&#039;ve just given my first reading to my new supplier BG at 20.3p/kWh and 23.8 standing.]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@witchcraft </p>
<p>that's not bad, especially with batteries.  I've just given my first reading to my new supplier BG at 20.3p/kWh and 23.8 standing. </p>]]></content:encoded>
						                            <category domain="https://renewableheatinghub.co.uk/forums/electricity-providers/">Electricity, Tariffs, Monitoring, Electrics &amp; Providers</category>                        <dc:creator>Kev M</dc:creator>
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                        <title>RE: November Bills</title>
                        <link>https://renewableheatinghub.co.uk/forums/electricity-providers/november-bills/paged/2/#post-4219</link>
                        <pubDate>Fri, 03 Dec 2021 09:50:17 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[After a further long chat with Octopus I am back on a Go fix at 24p/kWh day and 5p/kWh night again.  Still a big old increase but much nicer than the mad quotes they gave me on Tuesday.  (St...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After a further long chat with Octopus I am back on a Go fix at 24p/kWh day and 5p/kWh night again.  Still a big old increase but much nicer than the mad quotes they gave me on Tuesday.  (Still looking forward to the Powerwall)</p>]]></content:encoded>
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                        <title>RE: November Bills</title>
                        <link>https://renewableheatinghub.co.uk/forums/electricity-providers/november-bills/paged/2/#post-4163</link>
                        <pubDate>Thu, 02 Dec 2021 09:12:38 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[Just changed to their flexible rate, still at eye-watering @ 22.52p day rate and 14.54p night rate - Ouch.  My Powerwall due in January can&#039;t come soon enough]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just changed to their flexible rate, still at eye-watering @ 22.52p day rate and 14.54p night rate - Ouch.  My Powerwall due in January can't come soon enough</p>]]></content:encoded>
						                            <category domain="https://renewableheatinghub.co.uk/forums/electricity-providers/">Electricity, Tariffs, Monitoring, Electrics &amp; Providers</category>                        <dc:creator>witchcraft</dc:creator>
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                        <title>RE: November Bills</title>
                        <link>https://renewableheatinghub.co.uk/forums/electricity-providers/november-bills/paged/2/#post-4154</link>
                        <pubDate>Wed, 01 Dec 2021 19:44:06 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[Posted by: @jeff 

 Posted by: @witchcraft 
@editor Much worse than that!  This is with a loyal customer discount, the basic GO tariff is worse



Day rate
29.36p per kWh


 

...]]></description>
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<p>@editor Much worse than that!  This is with a loyal customer discount, the basic GO tariff is worse</p>
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<td>29.36p per kWh</td>
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<td>Night rate</td>
<td>15.36p per kWh</td>
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<td>24.10p per day</td>
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<p>Is this a fixed 12 month tariff or the Flexible Octopus ofgem price capped rate for you? </p>
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<p>These kind of rates make batteries a no brainer. 14p per kW. 10kw batteries pay out £1.40 a day of charge. Ignoring solar say you use them for 150 days (5 months from October to march) that's £210 a year. Then you get all the free energy over the shoulder and summer months.</p>
<p>If you can get the batteries at a decent price with a good inverter you could easily use a 5kw inverter over that period to store up to 35kW.</p>]]></content:encoded>
						                            <category domain="https://renewableheatinghub.co.uk/forums/electricity-providers/">Electricity, Tariffs, Monitoring, Electrics &amp; Providers</category>                        <dc:creator>batalto</dc:creator>
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                        <title>RE: November Bills</title>
                        <link>https://renewableheatinghub.co.uk/forums/electricity-providers/november-bills/paged/2/#post-4151</link>
                        <pubDate>Wed, 01 Dec 2021 19:09:47 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[Posted by: @batalto 
I didn&#039;t state it on my post earlier, but in 2020 I used 3,600kW of gas in November. This year it was 1,060kW of electricity. Obviously the weather is a factor, but int...]]></description>
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<p>I didn't state it on my post earlier, but in 2020 I used 3,600kW of gas in November. This year it was 1,060kW of electricity. Obviously the weather is a factor, but interesting to compare</p>
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<p>Really useful comparison.</p>
<p>Thanks</p>]]></content:encoded>
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                        <title>RE: November Bills</title>
                        <link>https://renewableheatinghub.co.uk/forums/electricity-providers/november-bills/paged/2/#post-4150</link>
                        <pubDate>Wed, 01 Dec 2021 18:48:02 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[I didn&#039;t state it on my post earlier, but in 2020 I used 3,600kW of gas in November. This year it was 1,060kW of electricity. Obviously the weather is a factor, but interesting to compare]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I didn't state it on my post earlier, but in 2020 I used 3,600kW of gas in November. This year it was 1,060kW of electricity. Obviously the weather is a factor, but interesting to compare</p>]]></content:encoded>
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                        <title>RE: November Bills</title>
                        <link>https://renewableheatinghub.co.uk/forums/electricity-providers/november-bills/paged/2/#post-4028</link>
                        <pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 2021 10:57:37 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[Posted by: @jeff 

 Posted by: @witchcraft 
@Jeff Isn&#039;t that open though to a big old price rise when the Gov&#039;t alter the cap in the New Year? At least (and its a tiny crumb of comfort) I...]]></description>
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<p>@Jeff Isn't that open though to a big old price rise when the Gov't alter the cap in the New Year? At least (and its a tiny crumb of comfort) I am now on a fix for the next 12 months</p>
<p> </p>
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<p>The current assumptions are up to 30% increase in the price cap in April</p>
<p>Obviously impossible to know which will turn out best.</p>
<p>I don't know whether you would be better off going for a cheaper rate over winter and see what happens as April approaches.</p>
<p>Perhaps piece of mind is worth it. </p>
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<p>I can't see Octopus offering a fix that they think they will make a loss on.  That's what all the smaller suppliers did and look what happened to them.  I think the fix is a the very high end of where they expect prices to be. </p>
<p>I think it's worth going variable over winter as you'll be saving nearly 10p/kWh compared with a fix.  That's a lot of money for an ASHP user. You'd have to have the next winter at 40p/kWh to wipe that out and I can't see that happening.  </p>
<p>I agree with @jeff and it's currently looking like 26-27p after April. </p>]]></content:encoded>
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                        <title>RE: November Bills</title>
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                        <pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 2021 10:37:36 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[Posted by: @witchcraft 
@Jeff Isn&#039;t that open though to a big old price rise when the Gov&#039;t alter the cap in the New Year? At least (and its a tiny crumb of comfort) I am now on a fix for t...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote data-userid="755" data-postid="4023" data-mention="witchcraft">
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<p>@Jeff Isn't that open though to a big old price rise when the Gov't alter the cap in the New Year? At least (and its a tiny crumb of comfort) I am now on a fix for the next 12 months</p>
<p> </p>
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<p>The current assumptions are up to 30% increase in the price cap in April</p>
<p>Obviously impossible to know which will turn out best.</p>
<p>I don't know whether you would be better off going for a cheaper rate over winter and see what happens as April approaches.</p>
<p>Perhaps piece of mind is worth it. </p>]]></content:encoded>
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                        <title>RE: November Bills</title>
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                        <pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 2021 10:29:34 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[@Jeff 12 Month fixed rate]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Jeff 12 Month fixed rate</p>]]></content:encoded>
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                        <title>RE: November Bills</title>
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                        <pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 2021 10:27:58 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[Posted by: @witchcraft 
@editor Much worse than that!  This is with a loyal customer discount, the basic GO tariff is worse



Day rate
29.36p per kWh


 


Night rate
15.36p pe...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote data-userid="755" data-postid="4018" data-mention="witchcraft">
<div class="wpforo-post-quote-author"><strong> Posted by: @witchcraft </strong></div>
<p>@editor Much worse than that!  This is with a loyal customer discount, the basic GO tariff is worse</p>
<table role="presentation" border="0" width="100%" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0">
<tbody>
<tr>
<td>Day rate</td>
<td>29.36p per kWh</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td colspan="2" height="10"> </td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>Night rate</td>
<td>15.36p per kWh</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td colspan="2" height="10"> </td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>Standing charge</td>
<td>24.10p per day</td>
</tr>
</tbody>
</table>
</blockquote>
<p>Is this a fixed 12 month tariff or the Flexible Octopus ofgem price capped rate for you? </p>]]></content:encoded>
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