I assumed you were joking here. 

Hence my joke about a data centre in planning consultation stage: the backup diesel generators are so large that they led some people to start questioning whether they would just be used in regular tests. 

Clearly industrial electricity prices have been rising very significantly in the UK, according to DESNZ:

Could we say that the UK market protects consumers better than in the US, where domestic prices rose by 6% in 2025?

Thanks for sharing your thinking. It made me think how many factors need to be considered to optimise the tariffs when you have so much renewable technology..

Not a big deal, but as Outgoing Octopus has dropped to 12 p, and given that our South West facing array produces good chunk from 4 pm to 7 pm, thought moving to Flux is probably a good move. But, if that means we would have to pay higher rates when the HP is running whole day and EV needs more charging due to lower efficiency and pre entry climate control, then probably this move for summer is not worth it. I might do some modelling to see at what rates would it tip over the balance. At least Octopus makes such analysis easy by letting you download half-hourly consumption and export data.

My octopus intelligent go is fixed at 7p. Do you mean if you now want to get a fixed intelligent go, it increased? 

Flux not being available cannot be a great sign, hope the pattern of geopolitical events causing regular hikes in fossil fuel prices make more of us acknowledge that no matter mother nature being so unpredictable with wind power, that can deliver cheaper power. 

On my export (that is on agile), and without any pv, I am now making enough to cover all home electricity and some of my ev usage! I do not think of myself playing the markets, merely making our bess work to smooth the peak for others. 

And it seems some of the nasty public cloud data centres are also in the futures market to buy diesel. Going by the rumours around the public consultation I have been to 😀

😀 Clearly there are risks involved in any business transaction. 

I can see how this could work but remain curious about the relevant mechanisms in our electricity market! 

I am curious if this means that, in the case of Ovo agreement with Vattenfall, this means that Vattenfall has to make sure they are accepted in all 30 mins slots that they are presumably bidding for?

And that they only need to bid for periods that a) Ovo has sufficient demand and b) the ones that are economically viable to them to sell just based on the wholesale price?

We can't know these facts. PPAs are confidential documents between consenting companies!

OVO wouldn't be able to know what its demand might be a couple of years after signing a PPA. Nor would Vattenfall know if it had sufficient wind to satisfy that demand!

Negotiating such contracts is a skilled exercise... somewhat akin to an investment banker dealing on the Stock Exchange.

OVO might reasonably also buy energy storage capacity, and it might have the rights to re-sell over-generation to rival Suppliers, presumably at a better price than they could obtain from the wholesale market. Such measures would enable it to offset risks it is left to carry as a result of the PPA.

I did that (drilling a point), but then recognised it and moved on. 

It seems not.

You didn't drill into a point; you misquoted as I have said several times and explicitly demonstrated. Nor, it seems, have you moved on as the continued attempt to argue demonstrates.

This site is used quite often by people wanting information. If anything is posted that is incorrect, that gets in the way of this and, if I notice it, I will correct it. You posted something inaccurate and misleading and so I called it out, and I will continue to do so for as long as you attempt to reframe your mistake as anything but a mistake.